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Uh, what you want to know? Hey everybody. Hey everybody.
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Yeah. The rest of you, I hit I hit a uh

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like a brick [\h__\h] wall of uh jet lag

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about an hour ago and now I'm like

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feeling I'm I'm back. I'm back. I'm

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alive. Oh,

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great. All right. Well, good morning.

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Let's Let's uh People are standing up,

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so let's uh say, "Hey, where are we

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going?" Hi. You have a hand on

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You're in the dark. Find your light.

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Good morning. Good morning. Good

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morning. Had a lot of coffee yet. Uh

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yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Should I start

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teasing? You'll know.

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[Music] Um well, first I want to say uh I want

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Um well, first I want to say uh I want
to see you soon on Hot Ones. Yeah,

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we've been trying for years. I I met him

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in the green room of a UFC fight in

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Vegas and I was like, "Dude, I'm a big

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fan." He's like, "I'm a big fan, too." I

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was like, "Well, then what the fuck?"

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Like, "Let's let's do it." Uh, yeah. Oh,

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I'm I'm done. Would you do it?

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My question though was uh alltime

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favorite director and why?

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Wow. Uh Jensen would love to answer this first first
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I don't know. That's a tough one.

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There's like there's probably

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probably
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five that I I it would be hard to kind

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of rank those above or below.

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Um, I'll say I'll pick

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one because I think that

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uh I I think I had the most time working

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with him as as him as a director, he's an

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him as as him as a director, he's an
actor and also um he was also

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responsible for the other guys coming up

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in the industry. So the other directors

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that are in that top five, he was their

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mentor. And so he's been kind he's kind

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of the the the patriarch of of a lot of

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supernatural. And that would be Bob

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Singer. [Applause]

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Um you know, he was uh he was he was the

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parent on set. He was the he was the big

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papa and Elfe as some people called him.

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and um and he was a he really was a

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mentor to uh almost that entire

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production. Um from from us to the crew

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to other directors that would come

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through um and everyone just held him in

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the highest regard and had the utmost

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respect for him and I learned so much

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from him. Um he wasn't he wasn't a

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teacher in the in the traditional sense.

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He wouldn't sit you down and say this is

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these are things you need to look out

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for. These are these are these are

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things this is wisdom that I've learned

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that I want to pass on. It was just his

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way of being that you just learned from.

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And and so I think that uh as as a

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director because that was his role, but

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more as just somebody that that I

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learned from for 15 years. Um it would

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it would be uh it'd be hard not to say

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I'm a singer. Uh I agree totally. And

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uh but and to his point

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uh that's the easy way out. Yeah. What

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he said.

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Thank you. Uh no I I think I had time to

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think about what he was answering and

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totally true. Like there are probably

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five or six directors that if I were to

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get like he has 35 jobs currently and 48

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shows that he's the leader of. Um, but

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I'm not really working right now. I

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mean, other than Toronto, the

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boys like Phil Sichia and I love Nina

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Lopez Curado and I love rest in peace

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Kim Manners and rest in peace Charles.

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Yes, John. Each director brings out something

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John. Each director brings out something
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TV show like Supernatural that goes for

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9 months, like somebody like Phil

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Sigrea, he started out as an editor and

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so he wants as much as possible. And to

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his credit, like when you're shooting

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with Phil, you can just try out whatever

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you want. And Phil is famous, well

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infamous for Eye of the Tiger. You know,

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he's just like, "Let the cameras roll.

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Let's see what happens." And then he

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gets on the freaking Paula and starts

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playing the light guitar.

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directors would have kept the cameras

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rolling. So, he may have still done the

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same thing, but we wouldn't have been

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able to share it with the world. Um, and

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then there are some directors that I

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work with him Steve Robin on Walker and

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he's have my blood. Um, but he's like a

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family first guy. like if someone's

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having a something happening at home,

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he's like, "Get we'll figure it out."

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Like family first, like we're playing

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pretend. Um, so there's so many. It'd be

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difficult, but I've learned a lot from,

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you know, Bob and Kim and Steve and

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Phil. There there's so many. That's a

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great question. You wrote that one.

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I'm so welcome to Sweden at any point.

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I've been to Sweden. I went to Scotland.

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When? I went uh

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last summer. I was the museum. So

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they're like, "Yes, you

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I have it here in my journal."

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Are

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you nice to meet you? I'll come visit

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your country. I have the meatballs like

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in style. Sorry. Meatballs. What? I

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have the meatballs right now.

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Thank you. Thank you.

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Hi. I'm reading it because otherwise it

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won't come out. My

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question more an advice request for

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everyone that can relate with that s

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such as myself. um focusing on the

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development of your work along the

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years, not just as SE and Dean, but your

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careers um is how to thrive um through

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the difficulties and the problems that

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we can find along the way, not just in

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the cinematic graphic industry, but in

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the development of all jobs. Uh not

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allowing it to become like the biggest

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part of our lives.

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Just a easy one for you. We want you

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to clarify how to sorry to to rephrase

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to make sure I understand correctly. You

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mean how to focus on like a work life

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balance or Yeah. Oh gosh. Um, thank you

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for that question. I certainly don't

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know. Uh, I think something I

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Uh, I think something I
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and I keep saying this, I'm 42. Uh, I've

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been doing this since I was 17. And for

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a long time, I was always the youngest

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person in the room. My friends were all

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older. Uh, I was the youngest guy on

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set. I was the little brother. I was

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this, I was that. And it feels like uh

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or it felt like still at times feels

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like it felt like, okay, I'm going to do

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this so that I can live my life someday.

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Um you know, I'm going to save up some

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money and build a career so that I can

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sit on a porch and have a glass of wine,

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a cigar, and whatever. Um and then at

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some point in time, somebody said this

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to me. They were like, "Don't don't wait

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for life. Life is right now." Like it's

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the As I woke up this morning and my

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buddy sent me a clip of Rocky uh of

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Apollo Creed going there ain't no

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tomorrow. There ain't no tomorrow. And

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it was like a motivational scene, but

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it's kind of true, right? Like just

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don't don't wait for life to happen.

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This is life, you know? So whether it's

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your career and so I don't have a a big

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quantity of time I can spend with my

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kids, with my wife, with my friends,

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with whatever. So I just try and

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increase the quality as much as I can of

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everything I do. Uh it's tiring for

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sure, but it's rewarding uh beyond uh

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measure. So just remember that you're

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you like don't wait for life. Live it

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now. Tomorrow's my promise. Yeah, Yeah,
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similar. What do you

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say? Um, no. I It is an important

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question because a lot of people can get

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lost with with either or, you know, they

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can get so involved in their personal

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life where their work suffers or they

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get so involved with work that their

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personal life suffers. And it is a it is

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a delicate balance. Um, you know, I've I

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have found that I'm fortunate enough to

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my work as something that I truly love.

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And so I don't I don't necessarily view

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it as work all the time. I, you know, if

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I step back and look at it from a from a

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a macro lens, it is it is

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uh it it it is an artistic kind of

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expression. And so I get to go and I get

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to do this thing that that allows me to

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uh flex my, you know, my personal those

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personal muscles and that artistic

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muscles and the stuff that really means

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something to me. And I I I derive a lot

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of joy out of being on set and

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collaborating with talented people and

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and other artists. And so,

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um, the only downside to that is that I

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can't be in two places at once because I

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also love being at home with with my my

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family and and with my friends and and

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and that fills me with a lot of joy as

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well. So, like Jared said, I think it's

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really just being present and whenever

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you're doing what you're doing, making

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sure that you you do it because you want

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to do it. You're there because it means

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something to you and you're getting

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something out of it.

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Um, but it's there's there's never an

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easy answer for that because there's

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always going to be um a struggle with

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with needing more time. Um, and I just

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try to make sure that the time that I am

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spending doing whatever I'm doing, then

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I'm present and I am getting joy out of

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it. Um, and and that's that's I mean

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that works for me at least I think it

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does. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you.

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I I I think to this point to what we

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were talking about um part of it also

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and I I'll I'll carry on. Part of it

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also is like reward yourself. I mean, I

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we are aware and wildly appreciative

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that y'all have gone to work for a year

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to save money and dedicate time to do

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something fun. Like, [\h__\h] do it.

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Like, we're here. Like, you know, you

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not like, "Oh, I'll do it next year.

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I'll do whatever." Like, do it. Be here.

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[\h__\h] around. Have fun. Like, have a good

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time. Smile.

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Um, I would like to know, we all know

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what Sam and Dean think of the

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convention season five. What uh do you

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think the Sam and Dean versions from the

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other de dimension in season 15 would

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think they would

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be here tonight? Feel free to act it

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out. [Applause]

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Come on, you can do it.

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Uh, the salmonine and 15 were the the

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purple suit and the private jets.

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Private jet and the bun. And the bun. No

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beer. Lots of buns. No beer. No. No.

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They don't like the beer at first. Oh

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[\h__\h] But then

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what's your problem with that? Yeah.

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Um, that's a good question. Uh, I want

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to surround myself with a lot of people

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like Sam and Dean in Bizaro World season

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15. Uh, for a reason probably. Uh, but,

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uh, they they probably be they wouldn't

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Bizarro Sam wouldn't like my outfit. He

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likes the high. I have that suit by the

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way. I think when Supernatural ended,

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uh, they were like, "Hey, do you want

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any, you know, like props from show or

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wardrobe?" Like, "We're never going to

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use this again." A weird sized guy

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anyways. And they made it from being

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like high, what do you call it? Highers,

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like pants, the pants that don't

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high. And now they're like back in

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style. If you have pants that don't go

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your ankle, so maybe I should pull it

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out and wear it.

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What are you talking about?

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I think we also talk about fashion. So,

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he's already there. Yeah. I think I

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Here's what I think. I think that uh uh

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Bizarro Sam, can we call him that?

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Bizaro Sam. Alter universe Sam. Um he's

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probably a hypochondric, so this would

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scare the [\h__\h] out.

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He wouldn't like it at all. I think the

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bizarro de would probably say, "Wait a

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second. There's hundreds of beautiful

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women that want to hug me.

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[Applause] Thank you.

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Thank you.
Sorry everybody.

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Hi. How are you? Hi. I'm really good. Uh

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I'm asking the same question to

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everybody here. Uh and the question is

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should I pass the mic around?

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Uh the question is what's the most

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memorable or fun uh gift that you got

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from the fan?

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Oh, and I hope you don't go like Misha did

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and I hope you don't go like Misha did
and creepy pictures of your houses and

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friends. I hope it's not that

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[Music] [Applause] [Applause]
[Music]

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the you said the best. Well, I'm hoping

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for the best, but if you have She also

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said you said best or most memorable.

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And to that I have an answer.

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That's there was a picture we received one time

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there was a picture we received one time
um it was pre chat GBT pre AI or

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whatever but it was well photoshopped

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um of me and Jensen and Misha and Brock

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Kelly as a matter of fact uh engaged in

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a certain

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act may have been the inspiration for

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Rob's character.

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So I don't know the most special but

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that was the most

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memorable. So if you have anything like

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that give it to him.

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It'll be so memorable.

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Um, I'll say uh there isn't one

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specifically cuz there's been a few of

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them, but the ones that I've been the

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most uh um interested in, I would say,

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has been photo albums that I have gotten

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from from some of you that have have

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really been like a walk through time.

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Uh, and there's really been some

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thoughtful ones put together of, you

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know, every convention or or every job

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that I've had or, you know, anything

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that I've any any kind of personal

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photos that were put out there or

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something. There's just been some

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there's some very talented people and

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artists and stuff amongst this fandom

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that have created some really brilliant

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things and and we've been fortunate

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enough to to be on the receiving end of

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that artistry many many times. And to

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not only to not only uh appreciate the

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time and the effort and the skill that

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it took to put something together like

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that, but also it kind of takes us down

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memory lane in a beautiful way. And so

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um I I've been fortunate enough to

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receive a few of those in the past and

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and they're really they're just a lot of

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fun to kind of flip through and and look

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at all the the things that that we've

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done and how far we've

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[Music]

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come. And just in case uh this is like

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Tik Tok or Snapchat or whatever and

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makes it to the worldwide web, I'd like

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to answer on behalf of both of us. Um,

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the most special things we've ever

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received were like our Rolexes, our

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um, just fiat currency, you know,

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Bitcoin. Uh,

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uh, I saw you saying that the moment you

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open your mouth, I was like, I know

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where this is going.

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Free cars, houses, jets. Well, you said

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Fiats, so Yeah. Carpenter, how are you?

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Good morning. How are you? Good morning.

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Afternoon. Afternoon. And hi, my name is

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Sh. I was here 2 years ago. I took a

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picture with you as a mermaid and I got

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a wonderful confession from you, Jensen,

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that you were actually a mermaid before

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and that was wonderful. So, thank you

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for that movie.

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And now I have Sorry. [Applause]

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And now I have a game for you to play. I

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know that you've watched the episodes a

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bunch of times and now I would like No,

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we haven't.

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We have not. I have not. Have you

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watched Have you watched every episode

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of Supernatural?

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Every single one.

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I don't think

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everyone I don't think I've sat and

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watched everyone from from beginning to

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end, but I probably like 98% I have.

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Okay, so I'll make it easier for you. I

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have a list of episodes really. I have a

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I'm going to name five episodes and it's

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going to be a competition between you

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guys. Whoever knows what happened in

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that episode first wins. [Applause]

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I just want to just say that um my

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long-term memory is not what it used to

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be largely because it has been removed

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to make room for my short-term memory

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which serves me in my job much greater

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than remembering something I did 15

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years ago. He however is a freak of

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nature and has a bigger

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head. As a matter of fact, he doesn't

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even know what his name is right now.

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Do it. Do it. Let's do it. Okay.

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Question number one, which is very

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important to all of us. What happened in

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the episode Jess Bell? No.

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Justin would feel

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Yes. Yes. We go to jail. There's a

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virgin. We go to jail. We're sitting in

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jail. Yeah. There's a They're after a

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virgin. Yeah. A virgin or something.

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Yes. Yes. Very good. Very good. I

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remember I do that was Phil secretia and

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I do remember the outtakes from that

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episode because he was trying to explain

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to you how to

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say you were like how do you [Applause]

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[Applause]
know what happened in the episode? Time

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for away. [Applause]

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I'm over here. There was an episode

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called Time for

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episode 93. What happened in the episode

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in my time of dying? Somebody died. I

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died. Dean dies. In what version? Dees and Oh,

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Dean dies. In what version? Dees and Oh,
he's mowing the lawn.

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Just kidding.

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Uh he doesn't go he doesn't he doesn't

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like have a thing where like Mary and

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No, that's just kidding. Just just

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making sure you're paying attention.

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Um it was there was it was there was a

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death and it was it was just in time

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and it was it was just in time
and that is that's is that when Dean

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dies or Sam dies?

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Dean dies.

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Wait.

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Did Eric direct that episode? No, he

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did. John,

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give us a hint. Ta.

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What? Is that the Reaper?

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Is that the Reaper?
Oh, was that the hospital? No.

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She doesn't know why. She can't see him.

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So he's I remember I I remember from

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Gabriel moving her hand when it was when

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when

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two and it was the it was the the cup

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the cup [Applause] review.

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Okay, two more two more episodes. Okay,

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let's go. Dark Side of the Moon. [\h__\h] boy.

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The Wizard of Oz.

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No, just kidding. I don't know. Dark S.

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Dark S.
What season?

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11.

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Dean goes to heaven.

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We both go to heaven. We both go to

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heaven. Yes.

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And there's a moon.

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But it's

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dark. Close your eyes.

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We all die. Go to heaven.

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Memories. It was right. Yeah. I was

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going to say that. But I think the

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audience gets a point.

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So, okay. One more. One more. I think I

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think we're all tied up. We have two

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ties. I have one win. He has one win.

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And the audience has tied tiebreaker.

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Here we go. All right. Last one. What

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are we going to choose? Uh, okay. So,

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free to be you and me.

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Ah, it was you and me.

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We were free

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to

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me. Am I close? Season 8.

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Six. 5 3 2 1 15

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13. That wasn't my third. No, not until

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before the end. I got nothing. Kane.

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Oh my god.

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All right. So Sam and Dean break up and

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Sam Rosen have his own fictional own

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adventure and then Oh Sam has a

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fictional subject. No

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fictional English is not my first

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language. You had an adventure with

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hunters that got you and tried to feed

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you demon blood and Dean went with cats

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and you met everyone. We went to this

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sounds like 80

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episodes also remember it was story [Applause]

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time. How are you? I don't like that

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game.

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By the way, we are

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officially over five

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essentially at the end. Anyways, hi.

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Hi. Hi. It's lovely to see you here

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again. I'm Anna. Um, the last time I

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asked a question about iconic lines, um,

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and I'm going to save that for later,

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but um, I wanted to ask about executive

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producing. you've both been executive producers

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you've both been executive producers
now. Um, and I wanted to hear maybe one

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one instance where you were pleasantly

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surprised about the role even though

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after doing 15 years on Supernatural

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um, and one instance where you were

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quite challenged and you didn't actually

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expect that to be so challenging. You

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mean as far as cuz we we did an EP

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Supernatural. No, no. As executive

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producers in the world. Oh, I see what

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you mean. Okay. Got it. Got it. since

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God. Um, okay. So, having seen the industry

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Um, okay. So, having seen the industry
as EPs, what we think about some of the

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things that happened in Supernatural,

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what's what was one thing that kind of

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surprised you positively and what was

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one thing that kind of surprised you

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negatively as as an EP? Yeah. Okay.

520
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:03,398
Positively. Thank you, J. Yeah.

521
00:28:03,399 --> 00:28:06,558
Um, I'll I'll start. I think one of the

522
00:28:06,559 --> 00:28:09,558
things that surprised me

523
00:28:09,559 --> 00:28:12,319
positively was reassuring was that there

524
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,119
were so many things by the time the

525
00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:17,319
script got to us in Vancouver

526
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,398
Supernatural. Um there were fires that

527
00:28:20,399 --> 00:28:23,199
we could put out on set and for a long

528
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,398
time we didn't have an EP full-time in

529
00:28:26,399 --> 00:28:29,199
Vancouver. We kind of were you we like a

530
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,999
rose by the name Smell Sweet. We were on

531
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:36,798
set putting out fires. Um so the

532
00:28:36,799 --> 00:28:39,759
knowledge that if you get involved early

533
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,798
enough you can

534
00:28:41,799 --> 00:28:46,798
not you know burden set with it um what

535
00:28:48,279 --> 00:28:51,199
surprised me negatively and I mean this and I say

536
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,719
me negatively and I mean this and I say
this to young actors and actresses um is

537
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,278
finding out how silly the casting

538
00:28:57,279 --> 00:29:01,038
process can be. It's like, "Oh, person

539
00:29:01,039 --> 00:29:04,239
number one is [\h__\h] perfect for the

540
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:05,798
character. Oh my god, what a

541
00:29:05,799 --> 00:29:07,839
performance." Um, and then you get a

542
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,839
phone call from the studio or network

543
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,038
like, "Uh, no, they have brown hair."

544
00:29:13,039 --> 00:29:15,278
Like, so you really And so maybe it's

545
00:29:15,279 --> 00:29:17,199
like justification for myself. Honestly,

546
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,639
like we've been through the same thing.

547
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,479
Too tall, too short, too black, too

548
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,519
white, too big, too small. Uh, green

549
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,199
eyes, blue eyes, whatever.

550
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,918
Um, sorry. I'm sorry. It is, but it's

551
00:29:29,919 --> 00:29:32,239
frustrating. But also, you know, as an

552
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:33,999
actor who I've been on a thousand

553
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,158
auditions and I'm considered successful

554
00:29:36,159 --> 00:29:39,678
cuz I booked 20 of them. Um, going like,

555
00:29:39,679 --> 00:29:42,239
"Oh, maybe it's not." And I met we both

556
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,519
and he directed many episodes of

557
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,158
Supernatural. And then we'd work with

558
00:29:47,159 --> 00:29:49,359
somebody couple seasons later who was

559
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,119
like, "Oh, yeah, Jensen, I direct I

560
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,038
auditioned for whatever." And he'd say

561
00:29:53,039 --> 00:29:54,798
to me like, "God, I remember that." and

562
00:29:54,799 --> 00:29:57,359
she was the best or he was the best, but

563
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,678
they weren't available for the second

564
00:29:59,679 --> 00:30:01,278
Friday or something. And so you lose a

565
00:30:01,279 --> 00:30:03,038
role. You don't find that out as an

566
00:30:03,039 --> 00:30:05,278
actor. You just find you lost the role.

567
00:30:05,279 --> 00:30:06,719
And so it's hard to say to somebody

568
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,398
like, "Hey, you were my choice, but

569
00:30:10,399 --> 00:30:12,558
you're the same height as this person or

570
00:30:12,559 --> 00:30:14,798
you're Jared's a giant." You wanted to

571
00:30:14,799 --> 00:30:16,479
get back to the person that did get the

572
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,199
role that they weren't the choice,

573
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:20,639
you know? So it's you kind of have to

574
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,479
cover your your Yeah. The politics

575
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:23,839
tracks, you know. I think we were

576
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,558
fortunate for many years uh especially

577
00:30:26,559 --> 00:30:29,439
on screen that we just got it and we got

578
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,678
to pretend and make art. We didn't have

579
00:30:31,679 --> 00:30:33,119
to deal with the politics and so the

580
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,599
politics of it are unfortunately real.

581
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:36,959
Uh and you just hope that whoever you

582
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,558
hire has the the wherewithal to to deal

583
00:30:40,559 --> 00:30:43,119
with it like he I would never want him

584
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,319
to know that he was the second choice to

585
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,999
to play on the fourth and and turn it to

586
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,719
me. uh they just let me

587
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,239
choose and Barry Watson wasn't

588
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,038
available. Yeah, that's that's kind of

589
00:30:59,039 --> 00:31:00,879
where I said it's it's the negative is

590
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,278
it's a lot more political beforehand

591
00:31:03,279 --> 00:31:05,759
than you realize. The positive is that

592
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,199
you can make a difference. At least you

593
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,439
can be proactive before Yeah. Yeah. Um

594
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,639
I'd say the positive uh is is the

595
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,999
collaborative aspect of it from a from a

596
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,158
an early standpoint. So like Jared said,

597
00:31:20,159 --> 00:31:21,678
when we would get the script and we

598
00:31:21,679 --> 00:31:23,678
would be on set, he and I would be

599
00:31:23,679 --> 00:31:26,158
collaborative about how to get how to

600
00:31:26,159 --> 00:31:28,719
get done what it is what what in the

601
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,278
script says that we need to get done. So

602
00:31:31,279 --> 00:31:34,239
we have a you know we we we have a

603
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,158
mission and that is the script and it is

604
00:31:36,159 --> 00:31:37,839
up to us and the directors and crew to

605
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,278
figure out how to accomplish that

606
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,439
mission. The collaborative aspect as an EP is

607
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,599
The collaborative aspect as an EP is
collaborating on coming up with the

608
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,879
mission. And so that has always been

609
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,759
what I've enjoyed most about film making

610
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,959
and and when I'm on set and stuff is

611
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,079
collaborating with other uh artists and

612
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,879
and thoughtful minds and coming up with

613
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,319
best case scenarios and um and that's

614
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,079
just really fun. uh it it kind of gets

615
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,839
it it gets that kind of team building

616
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,798
sense uh that I really enjoy. The the

617
00:32:10,799 --> 00:32:12,959
downside of of executive producing is

618
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,079
that you are dealing with people within

619
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,639
your camp which is the the other writer,

620
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,239
the other producers, but you're also

621
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,479
dealing with the studio and they have a

622
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:23,999
lot of opinions. You're dealing with the

623
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,999
network, they have a lot of opinions. So

624
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,038
you have so many cooks in the kitchen

625
00:32:29,039 --> 00:32:31,439
and navigating that and making sure

626
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,759
everybody is heard and feeling like

627
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,119
their their opinions are validated and

628
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:41,278
reflected in the script is really can be

629
00:32:41,279 --> 00:32:45,359
difficult to do. Um and and when people

630
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,199
have opinions on certain things like

631
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:48,558
whether it's a story line or whether

632
00:32:48,559 --> 00:32:49,918
it's a character or whether it's a

633
00:32:49,919 --> 00:32:52,398
casting. I I will say that in the

634
00:32:52,399 --> 00:32:54,038
process of doing the

635
00:32:54,039 --> 00:32:57,518
Winchesterers, the most frustrated I got

636
00:32:57,519 --> 00:33:00,278
and the most kind of

637
00:33:00,279 --> 00:33:04,798
um vocal I got in my frustration was

638
00:33:04,799 --> 00:33:08,398
about the casting process. And I had to

639
00:33:08,399 --> 00:33:11,918
really I mean I I thankfully he ended up

640
00:33:11,919 --> 00:33:15,038
getting the role, but uh they they

641
00:33:15,039 --> 00:33:17,319
drugged Drake along for quite a while

642
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,999
without signing off on him. And it got

643
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,918
to a point where he was doing chemistry

644
00:33:21,919 --> 00:33:25,439
reads like twice a week with a variety

645
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,278
of different actresses. And thankfully

646
00:33:27,279 --> 00:33:29,599
Meg was our choice and she ended up

647
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,678
getting it. But they wanted to see more.

648
00:33:31,679 --> 00:33:32,959
They were like, "Okay, that's great, but

649
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,599
we want to see more options." And they

650
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,759
kept they kept asking for more options

651
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,879
for for a lot of the roles. And it was

652
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,359
like we had already kind of made our

653
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,359
choice. Like we knew who we wanted and

654
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:46,798
they just kind of kept wanting to see

655
00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:48,398
options and options and options and

656
00:33:48,399 --> 00:33:50,558
options. And finally I was like this is

657
00:33:50,559 --> 00:33:52,558
ridiculous and this has got to stop. Why

658
00:33:52,559 --> 00:33:54,079
do you think that was? Because when we

659
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,959
look at Dre like it's just perfect.

660
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,359
Yeah. Well I you know because a lot of

661
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,119
times there's people that there's maybe

662
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:05,599
one person that's like I don't see it or

663
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,519
you know he's Yeah. He's I I wanted a

664
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,439
blonde hair. I had in my mind that the

665
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,519
guy was blonde or I had in my mind that

666
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,398
that he, you know, was this or it was

667
00:34:16,399 --> 00:34:20,878
that or so, so that's, you know, and

668
00:34:20,879 --> 00:34:22,959
when they're the studio execs or when

669
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,158
they're the people that are head of

670
00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:25,678
production or head of this or that, you

671
00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:27,358
know, they do have a voice and they and

672
00:34:27,359 --> 00:34:29,519
it should be it should be heard and you

673
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,078
have to listen to them. Um, and you

674
00:34:32,079 --> 00:34:33,439
don't have to agree with them, but you

675
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,519
do have to listen. And so it's sometimes

676
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,559
it was very frustrating for me to

677
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,239
navigate those situations and I I did

678
00:34:40,240 --> 00:34:42,959
get a little uh I finally kind of blew

679
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,358
my top and I've got a long fuse as Jared

680
00:34:45,359 --> 00:34:47,838
will tell you and they found the end of

681
00:34:47,839 --> 00:34:49,999
it when it was in the casting process

682
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,878
and um I don't know whether it was well

683
00:34:52,879 --> 00:34:56,078
it was funny enough when I got we'll

684
00:34:56,079 --> 00:34:58,119
call it passionate

685
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,399
[Music] about about the casting process and and

686
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,199
about about the casting process and and
the actors that we

687
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,799
Um, I think that is what tipped the

688
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,719
scale. They said they were like, "Okay,

689
00:35:08,720 --> 00:35:10,319
the fact that you're this passionate

690
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,279
about these two people gives us the

691
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,118
confidence to go ahead and sign off on

692
00:35:15,119 --> 00:35:20,270
them." And I was like, "Thank

693
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,559
you." Um, so that was

694
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,759
frustrating. And but again, that's all

695
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,358
part of it. And it was, you know, my

696
00:35:27,359 --> 00:35:29,279
first time doing it. I probably should

697
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:30,799
have handled myself with a little more

698
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,598
grace. Uh, and now that I know that

699
00:35:33,599 --> 00:35:35,439
that's what that process can be like,

700
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,759
I'll probably attempt, you know, when I

701
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,519
when I get another chance to do that,

702
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,598
I'll have a maybe a little bit more.

703
00:35:41,599 --> 00:35:42,559
See, I've been telling you this for

704
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:49,109
years. Just lose your temper earlier.

705
00:35:49,119 --> 00:35:57,349
Uh, Anna, thank you so much.

706
00:35:57,359 --> 00:36:01,199
How are you? Hi. Hi. Um, so I was the

707
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,479
last question at JIC last year and I

708
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,159
asked all of you the question, what was

709
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:07,598
the dumbest way you ever injured

710
00:36:07,599 --> 00:36:09,759
yourself? And everyone answered except

711
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,199
for Jensen because he set it up

712
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,039
perfectly and then he got cut off by

713
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,879
music. So hopefully there was nothing

714
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,910
else.

715
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,838
So please tell us your

716
00:36:21,839 --> 00:36:25,679
It was It was so So the question is,

717
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,439
have I ever gotten injured? What's the

718
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,399
dumbest way you ever Oh, the dumbest way

719
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:31,919
I've gotten. You said something about

720
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,039
Vancouver and your chin and it was a

721
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,919
dark day. Oh, yeah. That was that

722
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,838
probably ranks up there as one of the

723
00:36:39,839 --> 00:36:43,118
dumbest, if not the dumbest. It was uh I

724
00:36:43,119 --> 00:36:47,279
was at a friend's house and it it it was

725
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,358
yeah time to go home. It was late and I

726
00:36:49,359 --> 00:36:50,239
was like, "All right, I'm going to go

727
00:36:50,240 --> 00:36:52,239
downstairs and and I think at that time

728
00:36:52,240 --> 00:36:54,159
it was taxi. I don't even think Uber was

729
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,799
still like maybe just starting out. So,

730
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,399
I was like, I'm going to go I'll call a

731
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,799
cab. I went downstairs. He was in a like

732
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,078
an apartment building. And I went

733
00:37:02,079 --> 00:37:04,799
downstairs and was on the the street.

734
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,719
And I was like literally just kind of

735
00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:08,719
like, you know, on my phone like waiting

736
00:37:08,720 --> 00:37:10,959
for the cab to show up and it was

737
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,838
drizzling kind of wet. So, the sidewalks

738
00:37:13,839 --> 00:37:15,759
and everything were wet. And there was a

739
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,319
a a planter like a you know, just like a

740
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,159
a builtup kind of brick planter with

741
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,319
plants and stuff. It was maybe about

742
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,759
that high. And I was just, you know,

743
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,199
wasting time. And I thought I would just

744
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,670
kind of hop up on

745
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,358
it. I didn't notice that the top of it

746
00:37:36,839 --> 00:37:40,959
was curved and it was wet. And so when I

747
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,279
curved and it was wet. And so when I
when I jumped up on it, my foot

748
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,319
went and my face

749
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,759
went I don't even know where. Like I I

750
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,479
guess my arm went into the dirt and

751
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,639
didn't it didn't catch it didn't catch

752
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,078
my face. So my my chin hit the brick

753
00:37:59,839 --> 00:38:03,199
mortar from like a jump scar. Oh yeah. I got a

754
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,439
from like a jump scar. Oh yeah. I got a
scar scar right there in my chin. U

755
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,919
split me wide open. Blood all over my

756
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,199
shirt. And then the cab driver showed up

757
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,349
and he was

758
00:38:14,359 --> 00:38:18,719
like and he left. He left. So I then had

759
00:38:18,720 --> 00:38:21,679
to call an ambulance and an ambulance

760
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,118
picked me up and took me straight to the

761
00:38:23,119 --> 00:38:25,598
hospital and I got stitched up. So that

762
00:38:25,599 --> 00:38:27,598
was pretty stupid.

763
00:38:27,599 --> 00:38:30,959
Yeah. Thank you. Thank you.

764
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,838
That's it. That's all we have time for

765
00:38:32,839 --> 00:38:35,118
today. That's all we have time for for

766
00:38:35,119 --> 00:38:39,919
right now. We shall return.

767
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:44,719
What? Okay. I'm I'm signing off.

768
00:38:44,720 --> 00:38:48,239
Final words. Final words. All right.

769
00:38:48,240 --> 00:38:50,699
Thank you very much.

770
00:38:50,700 --> 00:38:54,219
[Applause]