SPNOKC 2025: J2 Gold
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How's that show last time? Huh? Awesome.

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Well, welcome. Welcome to the gold

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panel. These are gold people. I was I've

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been told the gold people. I've never

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actually seen them in person. You're

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beautiful. Goodness gracious.

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Well, I uh have the honor this morning

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of introducing the two I usually say the

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one the only when I bring Rich out, but

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I can say two the only. Let's give it up

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for Jess and Jari.

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[Applause] [Music] [Music]
[Applause]

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Good morning.

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How was the show? Fantastic.

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I missed you, too, but here I am.

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You didn't miss him.

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[Applause] Who do you think stayed up the latest?

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Who do you think stayed up the latest?
Anybody make it past 1:00 a.m.? Yes. 2

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a.m.? Yes. Anybody?

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Yes. Have you

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Are you just carrying out your arm or

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pulling all night higher?

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Me, too. Unintentionally.

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Yeah. Go ahead. I had a room next to the

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elevator. There you go.

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There you go.
Yeah. The nice thing about the room was

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when I walked in, there was a baby grip,

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you know, in case I want to stay

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over. Well, I thought it was for Rob.

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Uh, and so I called. I was like, uh, I

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think I might have the wrong room.

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There's a there's a crib set up in the

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room. And, you know, thinking like, I'm

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so sorry. That's my room. Like, we'll

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run a key up location. They were like,

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no, that's your room.

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through the crib. Sorry. Sorry. Do you

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Okay. Do you need it? No, we're good.

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I'll just hang on to it

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then. Good

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night. Uh and then um the way I I did

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wake up to go to the bathroom in the

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middle of the night, whatever.

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Older. But the way I deal with my

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anxiety is I go to the elevator bank and

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I start

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down start banging garbage

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cans. The ones

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It also it it it sounded like this

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morning at like 6 a.m. It it sound Yeah,

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it was probably you. It sounded like

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what I feel like the inside of the

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bottom of a plane sounds like when the

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luggage handlers are chucking bags in it

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was I'm like are they is there a bowling

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alley in the hallway?

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And I was like,

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Jared, Jared, anything.

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I will say this. Um, when I mean it was

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it was not an all nighter, but I think I

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roughly had maybe 4 hours collectively

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of sleep. Um, but when I got this

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morning, I looked over at that crib and

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I I was comfortable and I

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was I remember like when I used to we

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used to have to have those when we would

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travel and I got a little sad. A cuz all

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my kids are, you know, they don't need

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that big beds. And I was like, actually,

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I know I don't miss that cuz that

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include diapers.

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I don't miss any of that. But uh but no,

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it was it was a little it was a little

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nostalgic moment I had this morning. I

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was like, "Oh, I remember these things."

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Yeah. Uh well, thank you all for

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bringing us to Oklahoma City for our

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first time ever.

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any first timers.

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What took you so long?

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Been here before.

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Yeah. What took us so long? Yeah. All

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right, we're here. Touche. We're here.

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Yeah. Well played. Yeah. Well, let's uh

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let's get some else questions. That was

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fast. Where are you from?

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Where are you from?
That's why you're so fast. She's from

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Texas, so she's a little faster than

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most I'm going to mess up

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that we're in Oklahoma right now, right?

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But I watched the show several years

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ago, but my son, he got tired of me

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talking about how great it was and he

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finally agreed to watch it. So, we've

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been having this great rewatch and it's

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been cool watching him and it's kind of

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been a real good bonding experience,

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too. So, thank you. This show is so

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great. You know, it brings different

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generations together. Thank you. Love

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that. How old are you, babe? 21.

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For college, we would watch it, right?

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So, you missed it kind of when a kid,

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but then you realize maybe I'll check

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this out. Yeah. That that also helps

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because if if your mom started showing

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to you when you were one in the air,

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we'd be backing away slowly.

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Very cool. So, my question is, do y'all

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have any fond memories of something you

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like with your say fond memories fond me

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memories you've had with your parents

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one or the other growing up that was

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kind of a good bonding experience like

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that and since you you are so busy

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um what are some bonding things you try

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to do with your kids now you know when

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you have time because I know you don't

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have a lot of time

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bond memories with your parents and then

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things y'all try to do now to make good

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memories with your kids okay uh I'll

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start because I have just the answer. Uh

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so my daddy and I, we would uh we would

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go to card shows. I would collect cards

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and coins and whatever when I was a kid.

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Nerd. Yeah, I am. Uh nerd. Uh but uh we would

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Yeah, I am. Uh nerd. Uh but uh we would
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together. Basketball. Um and so I do

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that with my son with Pokemon cards. We

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are way into Pokemon now.

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Um, and then nerd

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nerd. And then, uh,

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with my dad, I would do I play horse in

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the yard in the front driveway. Uh, I do

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that with my older son, Tom, who's 13.

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And with Odette, we swim. Yeah. And with

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my mom, we'd read books. We talk about

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like lore. She taught Shakespeare,

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Heroes, myth, and legends. And so, we do

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the same thing with all three kids. And

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so, that's Yeah. Thank you. Thank you.

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I used to so uh when my grandfathers

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were were both still alive uh my dad and

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his dad um we would go to uh air shows

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um so my my grandfather was uh in the

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Air Force uh World War II

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and and uh so we would go and and watch

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the air shows in Texas all the time and

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that was that was something and then so

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that's what we did with my my dad's dad.

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Then with my mom's dad,

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um my dad and his father-in-law, which

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was my grandfather, we would go fishing.

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We would do a like an annual fishing

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trip every year. Um and that was uh that

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was that was a lot of fun. I mean, it

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was so many mosquito

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bites. Uh cuz it was not a it wasn't

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like going offshore fishing like on a

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big boat. It was this was

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like a a stock pond lakes, you know,

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sitting in the reeds trying to catch a

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bass. Um, so that was I I have fond

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memories of that, you know, that with uh

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with my dad and with my grand my

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grandfather's. Uh, and then for with my

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kids, uh, actually he and I are kind of

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doing something similar with our our

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boys. Uh, taking them golfing. Um, so I

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had I had my my 8-year-old took him out

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on the course uh a couple weeks ago and

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I uh I walked and so he walked, you

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know, a few holes with me and then he

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was like, "I'm tired, dude."

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Um, and he wasn't, you know, he's not

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hitting them long, so I let him hit all

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my putts for me. Said, "Get up there."

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But the best thing was is we had uh I

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had a Caddy with me who's the best

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thing. and he's like, "I'm going to go

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get a cart. That way he can hop in the

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cart with me when he's tired." But then

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by the end of the round, he had he had

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my son reading me, reading my putts,

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telling me the yardage, picking out the

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clubs. So, I think I've got a caddy in

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my which is fantastic cuz now he's going

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to, you know, as soon as he gets old

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enough, I'm like, "You're going to have

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to carry my bag now."

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Um, but yeah, I think looking looking

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for those kinds of of things are uh

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they're a lot of fun ways to connect and

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and uh um yeah, so I'm glad you guys

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found it found the show and that that go

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on. You're welcome.

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Yeah. Welcome.

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Oh, you're welcome for that.

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Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Uh right

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down here on the aisle.

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Okay. First question, but um so when

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Super first came on, I had just

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sed. So essentially, you guys ended up

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going through two pregnancies, three

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miscarriages, two deployments.

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So anytime that you know the monsters

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outside to be too real, I can always

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start and say, "Dean, why don't you

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fight the monsters? and it's really

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comforting. So, how does it make you

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guys feel knowing that you could be

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that? Uh, thank you for your service first

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Uh, thank you for your service first
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Um, it's it's honestly it's it's one of

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the reasons I still love coming to these

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and being the fans. Um, because I think

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we've said before, but I'll say it

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again. for our 15 years in Supernatural,

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we were just working, you know, and we

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were in Vancouver. We weren't in LA

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going to red carpets and premieres and

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this and that. It was like, go to work,

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go home, wake up, go to work, go home,

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wake up, go to work, go home, wake up,

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go to work, go home, wake up, go to

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work, go home, wake up, go grocery

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shopping for the week or try and do

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something and try and get a breath of

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fresh air or a nap or something. And so

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for for the first many many years, we

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didn't know if anybody was even

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watching. You know, it was still kind of

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a time where it was like the old

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Neielson box rings and like they were

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unreliable. It's like, well, I I guess

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people are watching cuz they're telling

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us we can finish the season. Um, but

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hearing now that we've been part of some

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people's lives, it's pretty cool. It's

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like, uh, I'm I'm proud of past Jared

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and I know Jensen's proud of past

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Jensen. Like, cool. we we here and meet

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y'all and kind of recap of the last 20

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years or something like that. So, thank

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you. Yeah, touching on what touching on

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what he said like we we did just kind of

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keep our heads down and and work and we

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were away from our families. We were

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away from our friends. We weren't at

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home and um it's about the closest thing

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an actor could get to being deployed.

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You know, we were we were away and we

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had a mission. That mission was to show

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up every day and do the best work we

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could. The only people, the only

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interaction we were getting with our

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work were the people we were working

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with, the camera operator, the room

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operator, the the sound guys and the

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directors that, you know, and so when we

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get to hear that what we're doing is

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making any kind of a difference in

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anybody's life, that is I think that's

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the legacy that he and I really hold on

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to and are proud of. that we created

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something that affects people in a

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positive way, that brings people

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together, that gets people through hard

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times. Uh, and I that's that's been I

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think the greatest gift that you guys

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have given us is sharing that with us,

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knowing letting us know that what we did

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mattered. So, everybody wants to matter.

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[Applause] Yes. Um,

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Yes. Um,
you're welcome.

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I also just want to thank you guys for

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everything you've done. I dealt with u

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anxiety, OCD since I was 6 years old and

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so always being buddy has been really

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big for me um and just the whole show in

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general. But um I know that a lot of us

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get very starruck meeting you. So I'm

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wondering if you've ever been starruck.

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Never. I am right now.

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Um I mean I I I feel like yes, but our I

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mean listen I we've heard the story. I

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think some people have heard the story

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where this guy I had to pull him away

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because he was losing his mind.

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Um when when we met uh Eddie better. Uh,

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and it was it was such a a a sweet

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moment and he just he lost control of

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his capabilities so much so that I I had to

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capabilities so much so that I I had to
excuse us. I I'll tell the story. Have

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you heard it? Okay. So, we we uh donated

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to a charity called uh I forget what

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it's called. It's for EB, which is

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epidermiosa. They call it butterfly

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skin. Uh people are born with it and if

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you touch their skin, it flakes off. And

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so Eddie Veter had thrown a concert

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essentially in somebody's backyard. And

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so you donate and you get some seats.

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And then after the concert was over, I

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end up talking randomly. I don't know

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these people to like Adam Sandler and

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David Spade. I'm kind of like, okay. And

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then Eddie Better walks up cuz the

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concert's done and he's smoking a

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cigarette. And I don't smoke, but I'm

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like, oh [\h__\h] Like I almost got a Eddie

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better. I almost got PJ tattoo when I

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was 18. Like PJ No. Well, his PJ is real

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jam and Jared kind of lucky. My cousin

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Jeremy did get um I weed

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up Jeremy kind of. But it's it's a good

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rectangle. I'll draw it for

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you. And so he comes up all cool. He's

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kind of like smoking and I'm sort of

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like, "Oh [\h__\h] I always hoped I

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wouldn't react like this." And I go,

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"Hey man, good show." He's like, "Oh,

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thanks, man." I'm like, "Is that real?

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In my head, I'm thinking I'm asking him

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if it's like a tobacco or marijuana. I'm

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standing this close to where he comes

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up. He's like, "Hey." And we shake

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hands. He's like, "Hey, thanks for

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coming." Great show.

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Is that like is that like real? And he's

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like, "Yeah, yeah." I go, "Do you mind

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if I

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uh like Oh, God. All right. It was a

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slow that was a slow gift. He got He was

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like And I was like, "Yes." I was like,

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"Thanks, [Laughter]

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[Laughter]
man. Cool, man. Uh, here you

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go." I told you. He goes, "No, man. You

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keep No, man. You can keep it." And I was

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No, man. You can keep it." And I was
like, and that's when I immediately go,

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we didn't just walk away from the

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conversation. I put him in the car and

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we

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left. Like, you have just lost

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all. And also, I don't know if you

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remember, I'm sure you do. It was like

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2:00 a.m. on a like it was a Sunday

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night concert. We were filming in

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Vancouver at like 11:00 a.m. the next

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day. So, we had a flight from LAX to

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Vancouver at like 700 a.m. to go

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straight to the set. So, you were you

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were in Malibu at the time. Yeah. I was

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in Studio City. So, we were like an hour

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drive back home and then I got like 2

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hours of sleep, hour drive back to get

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on the plane to go shoot in Vancouver.

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But yeah, I lost my co.

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Not my fault. Not my fault. Kind of

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fault. He still has that cigarette.

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He still has that cigarette.
It's pretty shadow box above his back.

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Uh, yes. And that gray t-shirt. Yes.

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Oh, no. Oh, gray gray gray t-shirt, not

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green, but okay. Green. Hi. So, I have a

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question for you guys. Shocking, I know.

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Um, when was the moment that you guys

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felt like you made it like you got

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recognized and just you just made it in

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big big industry? Still waiting. Still

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waiting. Oh no. Yeah. I mean there's one

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mindset of you never made it, you know,

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which honestly it's like I'm still

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feeling like I'm trying to earn

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everything I have and everything I end

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up to do. Uh, when did I feel like I

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feel but there is an answer to that. I

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do think that it was probably our first

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Hall H at Comic-Con

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um that I recall cuz we were in a

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smaller like Communion Room 3 or something for a

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like Communion Room 3 or something for a
couple seasons and then Hall H has 7,000

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people and they told us there were

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people in the hallways waiting and we

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were able to walk up the stairs and see

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all the people waiting who had slept

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there and I was like, "Oh, people watch

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the show." Um, so I think that was

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probably a big smack in the face of

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like, hey, uh, people watch the show.

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Um, yeah, I think for me I think, yeah,

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that that I think was when we knew the

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show had kind of gotten to a level that

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we were like, oh, you know, this is this

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is something bigger than we ever

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anticipated. Um, I'll go more kind of

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micro with with your question. Um, in

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that I think the first time that it it

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kind of hit me or dawned on me. It was like,

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of hit me or dawned on me. It was like,
uhoh. Was when because it used to be for

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years and years and years and years. It

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was Dean Winchester and I

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would but it was when people started

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calling me by my real name and I was

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like, "Oh, okay. It's not just me

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anymore now. It's Jensen." And I was

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like, "Oh, okay. Now people are like,

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"Are you Jensen?" He was like, "No.

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come to you, Winchester.

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So, I think it it maybe when that when

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that started turning, people started

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calling me by my real name and and I was

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like, "Oh, that's that's pretty cool."

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Um, and yeah, so I think for the show

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Paul H at Comic Con, but then personally

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when people started referring to me, as

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my Yeah, I I I do agree with Dean

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Winchester. You said we could see it.

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Yeah. right there. Well, now you're

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playing for my question. That was the

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same question. It was the same question.

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Um, hi, my name is Ashton. I'm actually

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from Lawrence, Kansas. Hey, Ashton. Um,

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my question, um, is there were a lot of,

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um, important and meaningful moments on

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the show? Correct. Thank you.

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My question was just, um, what were the

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most meaningful and impactful ones that

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you guys filmed that you really

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scene? For sure. Um

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the 200th episode was pretty awesome.

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Pretty pretty great. Uh I think those M

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the 100th episode, the 200th episode,

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300 episode, those those are those are

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big milestones for any television show

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or any television actor, any television

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producer, writer, those 100 100 episode

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marks are and they they really don't

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happen that much anymore. I mean

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certainly with streaming now like they I

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mean the boys has has done five seasons.

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It's taken them eight years to do it and

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that's what's what's five times eight

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40. Thank you. Um past that by season

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two, right? We've done that by season

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two. So the

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uh the quantity quantity of of shows now

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is is not it's much less interesting. So

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getting to those big markers um meant

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two things. One, it really kind of

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solidifies your show kind of in the um

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the history books of of broadcast TV,

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but also for the the business nerds out

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there, it means that you can package the

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show and syndicate it. Yes. And that's

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where a lot of uh studios and and

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production houses make their money is

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when they can package a show. they have

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enough content that they can then sell

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that package to another distributor and

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then you know so it's uh so that's

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that's another big kind of business

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milestone not just a performative

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milestone. Um I'll say I'll say you know

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the the last scene we shot in season one

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was on stage. It was Sam driving the

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Impala with Dean and John in the car and

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we were goofing around and it was the

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end of season one. We didn't know if we

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would make it. The the show had gone

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from WB Network to CF Network. Um and we

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didn't have a pickup. It wasn't like,

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oh, cool. We'll see you guys in a couple

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of months. But the feeling of

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completion, I remember the feeling of

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like when you're in school, it must be

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like this for like college graduates.

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It's like, oh my god, we did it. I did

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it. you know, we did. Um, and so I think

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that feeling of like wrapping season one

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on stage, hoping we'd come back, being

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optimistic, but not knowing if we would

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or not, but sitting there and looking at

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like Aggles and Jeopardy and being like,

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"All right, man. That's been a [\h__\h]

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wild 10 months. Um, hope we get to do it

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again. Love you guys." You know, always

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will.

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Um, all right. Let's go over

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How about All right. Far back

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corner. Yep.

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In the first uh part of the show, you

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guys did a lot of chasing

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like and stuff. So, has there ever been

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a time in your life where you're like

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joining the airplane club?

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Turkey airplane club. on that.

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on that.
Um, mean like real life? Yeah, like real

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life. Have you ever been

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like that dude is not real? That reminds

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me of something I've done on TV. Is that

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I

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don't No, I don't think I've run into

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any bookman or

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no, Bloody Mary or Indigo. No.

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In fact, I I I would probably say that

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it has desensitized us more to that than

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anything that if we were to come across

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something supernatural, he and I are

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like picked the wrong couple of

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guys. It's like, you know, it's it's

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it's like, uh, listen, I'm not a doctor,

514
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but I play one on TV. I'm pretty sure I

515
00:23:37,679 --> 00:23:39,079
can dress that

516
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,279
wound. And there's some actors who think

517
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,719
they can. Yes. But also like you there's

518
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,038
there's an interesting thing with with

519
00:23:47,039 --> 00:23:50,158
actors that play a role of a of a

520
00:23:50,159 --> 00:23:53,199
profession, a real profession um like a

521
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,639
doctor. Uh because they are they are

522
00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:00,399
effectively getting taught by an actual

523
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,879
technician professional the correct way

524
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,359
to say things, do things, dress things,

525
00:24:05,360 --> 00:24:08,239
you know. So they do have an an odd

526
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,639
skill set that wasn't taught to them by

527
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,319
going to school. It was taught to them

528
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:13,759
by somebody who already did that and was

529
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,038
teaching them the proper way of doing

530
00:24:15,039 --> 00:24:17,278
things. So we have this weird skill set

531
00:24:17,279 --> 00:24:20,639
that we learned that I don't know is

532
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,038
applicable to real life unless we're

533
00:24:23,039 --> 00:24:25,999
faced with something supernatural. And

534
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,439
in that case they picked the wrong guys.

535
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:33,278
Very true. Yeah. Thank you. Uh I see you

536
00:24:33,279 --> 00:24:45,430
blue supernatural shirt glasses. Yeah.

537
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:46,558
I just want to say I've been watching

538
00:24:46,559 --> 00:24:48,959
Super Home since I was 11. So I just

539
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,719
turned 20. Um, so this is huge for me

540
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,158
since it's the 20th anniversary of the

541
00:24:52,159 --> 00:24:55,439
show. Um, so are both very special to me

542
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,038
and uh, so are you guys. Um cuz I am my

543
00:24:59,039 --> 00:25:00,719
third year of art school and like

544
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,399
everyone tells me, you know, you're not

545
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,719
going to have a career, but you guys

546
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,119
being actors and stuff and it's like a

547
00:25:07,120 --> 00:25:08,959
tumultuous thing like it really inspired

548
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,519
me to keep going and push myself. So I'm

549
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,999
kind of uh I your advice on how to get

550
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,439
my foot in the door in the industry

551
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:16,879
because I want to work with people like

552
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,519
You're in art school? Yes, I am. Fine.

553
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,439
Um I don't know much about art school

554
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,479
and I that's awesome. Um, I think follow

555
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,278
your passion, uh, and figure out where

556
00:25:27,279 --> 00:25:28,119
it

557
00:25:28,120 --> 00:25:30,879
lands. Um, and I think, you know, when

558
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,439
you go into acting or art or teaching,

559
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:34,519
it's not

560
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,798
for to have a billion dollars in the

561
00:25:36,799 --> 00:25:38,399
bank. If you want that, go do a hedge

562
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,038
fund or something. Finance, I imagine.

563
00:25:41,039 --> 00:25:42,879
Um, but I would say just keep on

564
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,199
working. Just don't don't don't compete

565
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:46,879
with anybody else. Just compete with

566
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,399
yesterday's. There's a great quote. I

567
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,199
think it's a good point and it's it's uh

568
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,359
nobility is not being superior to your

569
00:25:53,360 --> 00:25:55,839
fellow men. Nobility is being superior

570
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,199
to your former self. So if you Yeah.

571
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,719
Yeah. I

572
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,319
wish if you just keep on trying to be

573
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:05,839
the best you can be. I think that's what

574
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,639
he and I did by accident is we just

575
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,798
tried to learn all the time and then

576
00:26:10,799 --> 00:26:12,558
when Supernatural came around we were

577
00:26:12,559 --> 00:26:14,399
ready. We were like, "Okay, cool. I have

578
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,079
been competing with this person for that

579
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,918
person. I've been competing with me." So

580
00:26:17,919 --> 00:26:19,798
now I feel like I'm a better version of

581
00:26:19,799 --> 00:26:22,399
myself and then just, you know, say yes

582
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:23,918
to opportunities if they feel

583
00:26:23,919 --> 00:26:25,439
comfortable. Yeah, there's many

584
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,278
different avenues into the arts. Um, and

585
00:26:29,279 --> 00:26:31,839
I think it if you know, if you have in

586
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,678
your mind like both this is the way I

587
00:26:33,679 --> 00:26:36,239
need to go, you're going to miss out on

588
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:37,599
opportunities to get you where you need

589
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,599
to go. And so I would say there's, you

590
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,199
know, especially with, you know, film

591
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:47,999
and TV or or music or you know, actual

592
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,239
art, printing or art world, art scene,

593
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,439
design, whatever it might be. There's

594
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,798
there's a variety of ways to get your

595
00:26:56,799 --> 00:26:58,719
foot in the door. And then I think once

596
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,719
you do that, then you you start to

597
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,678
acquire a skill set that's applicable to

598
00:27:03,679 --> 00:27:06,959
all the arts. And and so I would just

599
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,879
say, you know, always keep your eyes

600
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,158
open, say yes to opportunities, and then

601
00:27:12,159 --> 00:27:13,678
learn as much as you can in every

602
00:27:13,679 --> 00:27:16,079
opportunity you get.

603
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:17,359
Yeah. All right. I think we got time for

604
00:27:17,360 --> 00:27:18,639
one more.

605
00:27:20,039 --> 00:27:24,158
[Music] Uh, okay. Right here at the center. Yes.

606
00:27:24,159 --> 00:27:26,079
Uh, okay. Right here at the center. Yes.
Yeah. You, the one who's hands up as

607
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:32,549
you're like me.

608
00:27:32,559 --> 00:27:35,918
Hi, I'm Pat. I love you so much. Um, my

609
00:27:35,919 --> 00:27:38,239
question is kind of twofart. First is

610
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:39,439
how do you balance going to these

611
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:40,959
conventions all the time with like your

612
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,399
work and other projects that you're

613
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,158
doing? And do you ever get tired of

614
00:27:44,159 --> 00:27:47,119
doing that for so long? I I'll start

615
00:27:47,120 --> 00:27:49,479
first. I'm not working right now,

616
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,239
so my only work is at home with Jan, the

617
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,719
kids. Um, but uh yeah, these are a

618
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,158
wonderful a wonderful escape. I mean,

619
00:27:58,159 --> 00:27:59,918
it's it's like we get to have a 10 year

620
00:27:59,919 --> 00:28:02,479
reunion or 20 year reunion a couple of

621
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,798
weekends a month or a couple of weekends

622
00:28:04,799 --> 00:28:06,798
out of the year. So, these are really

623
00:28:06,799 --> 00:28:08,798
refreshing and refueling being around

624
00:28:08,799 --> 00:28:10,319
y'all. And yeah, they're it's long

625
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,639
hours. meeting a lot of people, but it's

626
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,479
like it's like running a marathon or

627
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,558
something. It's so enjoyable that yeah,

628
00:28:16,559 --> 00:28:19,038
it's tiring um just physically, but

629
00:28:19,039 --> 00:28:21,519
mentally and and in my soul, I feel kind

630
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,639
of recharged and refreshed. Um and so I

631
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,639
think it's more just while we're here

632
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,278
making sure that we get enough sleep,

633
00:28:29,279 --> 00:28:32,398
not 4 hours if you can help it. But uh

634
00:28:32,399 --> 00:28:35,119
yeah, just I mean I if you told

635
00:28:35,120 --> 00:28:38,879
8-year-old Jared that he'd be on a stage

636
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,879
with people talking about a show he had

637
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,319
been a part of. Um I I laugh in your

638
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,558
face. I say there's no way. And so I I

639
00:28:46,559 --> 00:28:49,918
relink that and I remember what uh young

640
00:28:49,919 --> 00:28:52,798
me was like dreaming of um someday being

641
00:28:52,799 --> 00:28:54,239
a part of. And then I look out here and

642
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:58,639
I go like cool like here we are. Yeah, I

643
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,038
think it's just also he and I have kind

644
00:29:01,039 --> 00:29:02,119
of

645
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:06,319
been wired to do this. We've programmed

646
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,999
ourselves to to for this kind of

647
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,999
stamina. Um I mean I'm leaving tonight

648
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:17,359
to go back to Toronto to work tomorrow.

649
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,519
And what's that? Only if the weather.

650
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,759
Only if the weather lets me. Hey, come

651
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,798
on. Come on.

652
00:29:24,799 --> 00:29:29,510
Do that. Um,

653
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,599
it's supposed to be I feel like it's,

654
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:32,839
you know, like

655
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,519
to like running a marathon. I think he

656
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,079
and I, we don't want to stop running cuz

657
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:39,918
then then we might lose that

658
00:29:39,919 --> 00:29:42,319
conditioning. So, I feel like the more

659
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,519
you do it, the easier it is. Um, and any

660
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,079
anything you you pick up a weight and

661
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,278
it's hard at first, but then you keep

662
00:29:49,279 --> 00:29:50,319
doing it and you keep doing it even

663
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:51,918
stronger and you just it's muscle

664
00:29:51,919 --> 00:29:53,678
memory. So, we've just been doing these

665
00:29:53,679 --> 00:29:56,079
for for a while. We enjoy them like you

666
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,599
said. Um and and we're we're

667
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,719
conditioned. So thank you. All right.

668
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,278
Thanks, guys. Appreciate

669
00:30:06,279 --> 00:30:08,779
you. Thanks a lot.

670
00:30:08,780 --> 00:30:19,010
[Applause]