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um hi everyone my name is David Bushman

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I'm television curator at the Museum of

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television and radio and I want to

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welcome all of you to the Museum's 23rd

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annual William P television Festival

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that clip that you just saw is from

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Route 66 which is one of the shows that

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um the Creator Eric kryy of um of

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Supernatural um often sites as one of

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his influences and that explains why we

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picked it that's part of our collection

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we have 120,000 television and radio uh

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programs in our collection and I would

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encourage all of you to visit the museum

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in Beverly Hills and in New York when

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you're there um tonight we're really

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excited to be honoring Supernatural

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which was named one of the top five new

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series of 2005 by Entertainment

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Weekly Supernatural is a a vibrant fresh

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exciting show that combines all sorts of

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genre elements family drama comedy

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suspense and on top of that it just

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scares the hell out of you

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I really want to thank Warner Brothers

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for all they did in helping make this

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night happen particularly the PR

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department Holly Alis and Winston cedo

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thank thank you very much um what we're

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going to do tonight is we're going to um

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introduce right up front the cast and

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the creative team our panelist for the

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evening introduce them very briefly um

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Eric's going to say a few words about

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what you're going to see then we're

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going to watch an episode of the program

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which Eric will talk about then we'll

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bring the panelists back up I'll ask

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some questions and then you guys are on

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so start thinking of questions now okay

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um so let me start with the panelist

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intros first uh one of the producers of

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Supernatural please welcome Peter

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Johnson uh next we have co-executive

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producer and director Kim Manor

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next we have co-executive producer and

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writer John

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shyan next he plays Dean Winchester

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please welcome Jensen AEL

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next Sam Winchester please welcome Jared

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padaki next the executive producer and

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director Robert Singer

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finally the man whose Vision uh created

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Supernatural is the creator executive

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producer and writer please welcome Eric kryy hey

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kryy hey
everybody um thank you so much uh for

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coming uh it's a little uh overwhelming

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and and amazing uh quite frankly this is

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to my knowledge I mean the first

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Gathering of any Supernatural fans

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anywhere so thank you to you and give

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yourself a round of

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applause um just quick story from the

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set of Supernatural because it just

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happened last night uh which is they

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were uh they shoot up in Vancouver and

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uh they were shooting up at Stanley Park

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or about to begin production which is a

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a public park up in Vancouver um and uh

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uh we're about to start filming when

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they got a call that uh there was a man

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about 100 200 yard from the film company

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uh with a handgun and uh they called you

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know Jaren Jensen said you know don't

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come to set there's a man with a handgun

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and and they shut down the whole

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production for two hours they called in

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the police they called in the SWAT team

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uh they stormed this is all true very

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true this all just happened last night

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uh they all storm Stanley you know SWAT

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team storm Stanley Park uh looking for

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this man with a gun uh and it turned out

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to be a uh member of our special effects

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crew so good times from the set of

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Supernatural um anyway so uh I'm

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supposed to introduce the episode so let

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me uh let me do that uh the episode

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we're showing tonight is uh

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scarecrow um all right scarecrow fans in

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the house uh scarecrow uh was written by the

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house uh scarecrow uh was written by the
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round of applause for

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John and it was directed by the very

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brilliant Kim

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maners um and so the reason uh we chose

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scarecrow is we sort of felt it was uh

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just a good mix of sort of everything

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that the show is about um you know we

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think there's really some good drama

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between the brothers we think there's

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some good comedy uh we think there's you

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know good mythology about Dad and this

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is the charact this is the episode that

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introduces Meg which people online had

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problem with I seem to remember

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um and uh and it's you know just we

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think a a scary uh damn good episode and

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and and based on uh a a good series of

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uh you know very fun urban legends about

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scarecrows and so I'll stop rattling on

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enjoy scarecrow we'll talk after thank

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um are there any xfile fans out there in

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the or

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show so every time I see this episode I

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feel like shake and Dean saying what are

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you doing trusting the cigarette smoking

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man um I'm going to bring our panelists

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back up on stage um our first panelist

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is co-executive producer and director on

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Supernatural he's directed nearly 300

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hours of Television including 53

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episodes of The X Files which he also

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produced please welcome Kim manners

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co-executive producer and writer on

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staff writer on the xfiles writing or

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eventually serving as executive producer

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producer of The Lone Gunman and

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supervising producer of Harsh Realm and

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has written for and produced Star Trek

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networks Frankenstein please welcome

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shyan our next panelist portrays

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Dean wise cracking older Winchester

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before before Supernatural he was

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familiar to WB viewers as Jason teag on

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Smallville I don't know if I'm going to

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get through these

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in he had a recurring role on Dawson's

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he he received three daytime enemy
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Days please please welcome Jensen a

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you um our next panel is portray Sam the

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rebellious rebellious younger Winchester

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Wax Cheaper by the Dozen Flight of the

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Phoenix please welcome Jared padle

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our next panelist executive produces

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series forly formerly vice president of NBC

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forly formerly vice president of NBC
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Daniel blat to produce films and TV

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series including V the final battle and

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executive produced midnight caller Lois

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clar Lois and Clark The New Adventures

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Superman and reasonable doubts which he

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also created please welcome Bert

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singer um our final panelist today is
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to Executive producing and writing for

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the series his previous TV credits

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wrote and co-produced

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he also wrote and co-produced the

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feature film Boogyman please welcome

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kryy okay I'll start with a few

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um Eric the first one would be for you

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I'm just kind of curious how how this uh

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the idea for this series um the Genesis

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of it and and how it evolve from concept

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to uh what we see on the

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screen um I uh for a really long time I

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wanted to do a show about uh American

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folklore and urban legends sort of kind

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of a subject that you know even back to

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elementary school I've been you know

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kind of obsessed with as a matter of

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fact the very my very very first TV

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pitch when I first started in town when

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it and kept getting smacked down um I

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tried to do it as an anthology and then

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I had this idea of like a bunch of

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reporters in a van like Scooby-Doo

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style all these sort of terrible ideas

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and then uh and then I was you know

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working with Warner Brothers and and had

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just come off of uh Daran

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what what show would you want to do and

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they said well what what's the concept

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storyline that I spent weeks and weeks

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on uh about a reporter um and it was

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almost exactly nightstalker which is

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hilarious um and uh and uh they they

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kind of looked at me and they were like

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know what else and I said well cuz I I

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literally scribbled it in my notebook

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the day before which which was I said

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like two guys on a road trip and they're

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like we love that do

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that and I so it just kind of came out

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of nowhere and just sort of uh developed

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from there and and it turned out to be

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just the the right uh you know the right

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way into the show because they can just

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drive it you know the boys could just

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drive in and out of a different horror

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movie every week so did you did you um

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know in terms of characters who those

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two guys were I mean how had the whole

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this whole family element which is so

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important to the show I mean even um you

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know Jared says to to the girl in this

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episode uh I've got to go back because

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it's my family how did that whole family

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aspect um just you know you you're write

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what you know and and I'm I'm from a

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very uh close-knit uh family and I have

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a big brother um and uh you know and I

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have you know a lot of you know really

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great friends and and just you know sort

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of the way guys talk and the way they

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communicate without ever really

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communicating anything and um and uh so

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of that and uh so I knew I wanted to do

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you know uh you know in terms of the

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characters I knew I wanted you know the

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the little brother to you know be

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conflicted and have a lot of you know a

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lot of the anston problems which I threw

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right to Jared um and I wanted a and I

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wanted a big brother just be a total

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smartass I mean that's how I started you

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and and so you know and and it's and

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really needs like a grounding influence

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and to to ground the show into family

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and elements of family um and that you

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know the care that these brothers have

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for each other uh uh really helps us cuz

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these two

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guys big hug big

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hug than glass yeah um cuz these two

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guys I mean the the relationship they

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have I mean sometimes we have you know

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good subject matter and sometimes you

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know we don't

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um but the but the relationship of the

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brothers these these two actors always

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sees us through so did um were you

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familiar with their work um or did you

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just bring in a ton of actors to

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audition for the roles uh we auditioned

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everybody in town um as you always do

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kind of on these Pilots um my uh my wife

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was quite the Gilmore Girls fan so I uh

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I knew [Applause]

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[Applause]
so uh I knew I I knew Jared's work and

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Jensen our director David Nutter uh who

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directed The Pilot um knew Jensen from

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uh either was it dark angel probably

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yeah and he knew him from Dark Angel and

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so uh Dark Angel Jensen Dark Angel come

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on and uh so when we were you know when

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we were casting the characters it was it

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was David Nutter who said you know we

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have to we have to to fly down Jensen

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who was up shooting Smallville at the

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time so he wasn't really in the in the

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in the pilot pool and you know thank God

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we did cuz he walked actually the story

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which was funny is Jensen walked in the

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room and and met with us and and and

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David and and Peter Johnson and I and

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and we talked to him and talked to him

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and we walked out the door and we looked

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at each other and we were so excited we

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were like we found him we found

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Sam I didn't get flown down I fried

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myself yeah so wanted that to me now and

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and it was and so you know these things

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just kind of form as as puzzle pieces

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come together and it wasn't until we met

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Jared that we were like well that's Sam

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and we're like and then you know Jensen

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could be Dean and then it all just kind

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of you know it all kind of came together

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from there it's real interesting what

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how about you guys Jared and Jensen can

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you tell us I'll let Jensen take that

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from your go ahead oh Jensen that's

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that's totally you what H what's the

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what's the exact question the

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question spelling me you

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use the word spell Le use that in a s

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leopard leopard leard no the question

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was uh can you talk about the audition

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proces from the your perspective well

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it's interesting actually for me hearing

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it from Eric's perspective um I uh I had

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obviously been working with Warner

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Brothers for Gilmore Girls and um the

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five years prior to doing the show I'd

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worked on Gilmore Girls and sort of

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developed a relationship with um some of

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the people at the one brother's offices

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and had kind of uh heard about a few of

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the pilots coming out and I read this

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one in particular and I really enjoy the

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the characters and it really struck me

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as something that I remember hearing

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sort of once sence breakdown of like

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it's kind of uh Supernatural it's called

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Supernatural and I was thinking like

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great Charmed or Buffy which are all

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great shows but not the show I wanted to

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be a part of you know I didn't want to

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do Roswell or Charmed or Buffy and then

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when I read it I was like wow this is

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this is very interesting and and so much

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more than just like do scary show so

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what what appeal to you about it well I

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sort of uh I grew up son of an English

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teacher so she was always big and she

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actually taught Heroes Miss and legends

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so I was familiar with the mythology and

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sort of uh the Joseph Campbell taught

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teachings the taught teachings of

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Joseph and

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uh didn't didn't rub off that she was an

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English didn't rub

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off uh yeah it didn't it didn't I just

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worked till 4:30 this morning in

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Vancouver so I'm that you mention Joseph

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Campbell because there's a little bit of

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the reluctant hero very much I mean

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there's more than there's so much more

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than just the reluctant hero I mean when

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you get into the archetypes there sort

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of each script is just bursting at the

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seams with archetypes and you know last

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thing I think these people want to hear

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is me going to a explanation of I love

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the script I love the

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character did I

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so we're doing a we're doing um answer

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I'm awake okay so uh well so your agent

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sent you the script and you were you

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were auditioning for Sam all along uh uh

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right right I guess I guess where the

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where the process or how the process

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where it was going to reach me was read

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the script see if you like the character

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see if you like the script it was sort

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of like do you you know do you mesh with

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this do you feel you could mesh with

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this script and I felt I could and so I

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went and I and I met some of the guys

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and I REM met Nutter and you know sat in

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an office with who was it KY was it me

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Nutter Peter Johnson we were at the uh

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Wonderland offices and uh

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uh yeah and he he came in he had such

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energy and and just so uh lived the

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character just so was the guy you know

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it's a cliche to say that but he really

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was so it was it was an easy choice and

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did you feel real good to say that but

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he really was so it was it was an easy

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choice and did you feel real good about

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it coming out uh well yeah I it was it

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was by no means that short a process you

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know I mean that was sort of the

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beginning of a week or two week

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long finding of scripts and characters

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and I think the scripts are still being

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written I remember I'd seen a script

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they're like this is changing you know

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read the script but has nothing to do

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with this so much which is much like it

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it is nowadays you know we get a script

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and they're like okay we're shooting

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this in a week but it will be a

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completely you know it's just like it

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always can get better and and

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everybody's always working hard up to

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the very last second you know until they

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call Action people are working here

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people are working in Canada just you

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know sprinting okay Jensen what was your

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experience pretty much the same

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Jensen yeah uh well like like Eric said

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they they had originally brought me in

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for uh for the role of Sam and um I I

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knew David Nutter very well uh I'd

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worked on uh uh testing for some a

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number of Pilots um before that so I I

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felt very comfortable with him and with

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his recommendation to me coming in and

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he felt good about it and I had a

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conversation with him on the phone

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before I come before I came in and just

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he kind of gave me a spiel about Sam and

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uh and what thought and and then I read

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the script and and I was just

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script and and I was just
like what about

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Dean I like

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Dean he's

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funny and uh it's but I you know I

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studied for Sam and and I went in there

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and I I actually kind of studied for

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Dean a little bit too just in case and

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um I went in there and I read for Sam

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and and uh like Eric said it they were

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like you know they were pleased with it

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um and then went home that evening and

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got a phone call he said well uh uh

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there's this guy Jared uh p p

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something P something and uh and and and

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they really are liking him for for one

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of the brothers and I'm like okay so of

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course i' look him up online and I'm

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like he thought I was

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hot this guy's smoking hot I can't play

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his bro brother and um no and and and

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and then they said they said but they'd

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like to bring you back in for Dean and I

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of course was very excited about it and

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I came back in and and uh was thrilled

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so uh that's kind of how it all so so by

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the time you guys actually performed

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together you had already had the parts

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they weren't auditioning well no we had

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we didn't have to we didn't have it

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officially we had we had to do the we

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were the they were the only actors we

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brought in network because we you have

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to have a network thework it's usually a

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really terrifying process of sort of

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these guys and gals that you audition

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with all year long and it's five people

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that you're very very afraid of sitting

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in the room with you going for the same

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part and when we got there it was like

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hey hey where is everybody there is

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nobody just you and me pal

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Right started typing numbers down on a

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page and yeah well we went in and and

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and that was yeah that was the first

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time we actually met and then we did the

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scene together uh for a room full of

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Executives and uh that was that okay and

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we've hated each other since yeah I

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poisoned your

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[Laughter]

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wat how about everyone else on the panel

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Kim we could start with you and talk

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about how you became involved with

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Supernatural I read for

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[Laughter]

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Sam did everybody read for

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Sam David Nutter who directed The Pilot

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is a good friend he did season one of

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xfiles and um he called and asked if I

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would do a favor and uh come in and do

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one episode cuz I was kind of

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semi-retired after xfiles uh very

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semi-retired and I came in and did a

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show uh called Dead in the Water uh

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enjoyed myself fell in love with uh Jan

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and Dean or is it Sam and

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Dean um and I was driving home to my

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home in Missouri and they called me and

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said wanted to come on as a a part of

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the team and I turned around and here I

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am so I'm having a good time yeah thank

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God yeah yeah I don't know what we do

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without Kim up there he's unbelievable

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yeah Kim uh John I know what you do you

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get another guy

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with there is no other guy not true no

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other there is no other guy named

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Kim you know if this whole thing fails

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you guys can go right into stand up

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I don't want to stand up to

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him stand up on apple boxes all the time

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I'm pretty lazy I'd rather

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sit John meanwhile what what what he

520
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what he doesn't know what he didn't know

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about this whole process is that after

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we had him direct uh I guess that was

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our fourth episode being the pilot with

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David Nutter wo with David Nutter

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hookman with David Jackson and then Kim

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came in and immediately I think from day

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one we were on the phone with everybody

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we were on the phone with Peter and with

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Eric and saying this guy is incredible

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is who is this guy and David Nutter had

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sort of given him this very sort of

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mysterious you'll love Kim kind of

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sentence at the very beginning cuz we're

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going over this list of seven very Jedi

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yeah it was like who is Kim who is this

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guy oh I knew him from this who is Kim

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manners you'll love Kim manners and sure

538
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,519
enough we were like what and um and he

539
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,839
and he came on and he was just

540
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,439
incredible and he was just incredible

541
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:28,038
and um can I can I borrow and uh wow and

542
00:24:28,039 --> 00:24:31,038
so we we uh we basically begged and

543
00:24:31,039 --> 00:24:35,639
pleaded to get him um a job just a job

544
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,079
all I wanted he was hungry he was you

545
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,759
know he kept trying to bite my arm I was

546
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,879
really worried yeah I don't want to embarrass

547
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,199
worried yeah I don't want to embarrass
Kim but what was so incredible about him

548
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,839
about about him who well I I think that

549
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,158
I think that uh uh Jared and I just we

550
00:24:51,159 --> 00:24:52,759
just responded well to him I mean he he

551
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,639
directed in a fashion that that uh we

552
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,199
really liked and um you know it was kind

553
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,079
of a set where guys could be guys and he

554
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,038
wasn't someone who who directed you know

555
00:25:01,039 --> 00:25:02,639
behind a screen with a telephone

556
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,479
somewhere in LA and was like you know

557
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,079
doing over and over and then a closeup

558
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:07,319
and a close up and let's get out of here

559
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,319
and move on to the next set he was he

560
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,798
was in there and and you know a story

561
00:25:11,799 --> 00:25:13,439
about another uh episode that he

562
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,519
directed bugs uh this was a a scene

563
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:21,038
where we had to get in to a room

564
00:25:21,039 --> 00:25:24,839
with sorry yeah no I mean it's you know

565
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,839
we get in this this tiny little room

566
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,959
with 65,000 be bees and uh the whole

567
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,678
camera crew and the sound crew and

568
00:25:31,679 --> 00:25:33,839
everybody's got full be outfits on and

569
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,678
then they're like all right Jared Jensen

570
00:25:35,679 --> 00:25:37,158
hop on

571
00:25:37,159 --> 00:25:39,839
in and uh and don't SWAT them because it

572
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,918
makes them angry and yeah and I and I'll

573
00:25:42,919 --> 00:25:44,759
give it to Kim he said uh you know what

574
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,639
if if if you guys don't have be suits on

575
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:47,839
I'm not either and he went in there with

576
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,239
a shorts and a t-shirt and a monitor and

577
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:51,839
sat down on a box and directed us from

578
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,239
inside the room with be crawling all

579
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,678
over our faces it's just it's it was

580
00:25:55,679 --> 00:25:57,038
that it's that kind of relationship with

581
00:25:57,039 --> 00:26:04,350
k

582
00:26:04,360 --> 00:26:06,519
John how didd you get involved uh I was

583
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,439
going through the uh annual ritual of

584
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,999
Staffing season uh I had a a pilot that

585
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,879
didn't go so I was available and reading

586
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,359
all the pilots and taking meetings and

587
00:26:16,360 --> 00:26:20,999
and read the script and loved it uh and

588
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:25,398
met Eric and loved him a and I know and

589
00:26:25,399 --> 00:26:32,158
John's my guy he it's true um and uh I

590
00:26:32,159 --> 00:26:34,798
there a lot of uh you know I spent a

591
00:26:34,799 --> 00:26:37,319
long time in the xfiles and I'm offered

592
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,999
a lot of scary television shows every

593
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,359
year it's like can will you do this with

594
00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:43,319
you and this one just struck me right

595
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,479
away especially when I finally saw the

596
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,839
the the cut of the pilot because it had

597
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,079
those two things that I think you need

598
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:51,918
to have a successful show like this one

599
00:26:51,919 --> 00:26:54,439
is a great franchise which is the engine

600
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,278
that runs the show the idea that the two

601
00:26:56,279 --> 00:26:57,599
brothers on the road trip with a very

602
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,398
Personal Agenda

603
00:26:59,399 --> 00:27:01,119
uh is just great and you can imagine I

604
00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:02,999
can see instantly 5 years of of

605
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,719
suffering for these guys in uh in

606
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,119
episode after

607
00:27:07,120 --> 00:27:09,999
episode uh and the second thing honestly

608
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,199
is is uh is casting and chemistry and

609
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,079
chemistry is something you can't

610
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,398
manufacture and these guys have it and

611
00:27:18,399 --> 00:27:19,759
they're so great to write for and

612
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:29,158
they're so fun to write for [Applause]

613
00:27:29,159 --> 00:27:33,158
[Applause]
worth a try worth a try yeah so I said

614
00:27:33,159 --> 00:27:36,999
yeah I'm coming on okay Bob how they

615
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,789
you can I just watch

616
00:27:40,799 --> 00:27:43,999
them um they had actually made this

617
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,678
pilot and uh I I saw the pilot and uh

618
00:27:46,679 --> 00:27:48,439
really liked it a lot and I think uh

619
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,038
what the studio wanted was um after they

620
00:27:51,039 --> 00:27:52,999
saw it and I got picked up in the studio

621
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,759
one point probably said to

622
00:27:56,519 --> 00:27:59,119
themselves we're just keep it you can't get

623
00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:02,199
we're just keep it you can't get
anything done it this is what it's like

624
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,158
to direct them

625
00:28:04,159 --> 00:28:07,359
too uh uh the studio said well we we

626
00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:09,599
can't give 40 plus million dollars to

627
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,798
Eric kryp very true and let him run wild so

628
00:28:13,799 --> 00:28:20,830
kryp very true and let him run wild so
they say what we need is you know

629
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:29,430
some this is so hard

630
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,439
these people are very um so they thought

631
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,158
they needed some uh you know a an

632
00:28:35,159 --> 00:28:37,199
experienced hand to guide the young man

633
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,558
through these Rocky Waters the young the

634
00:28:39,559 --> 00:28:41,398
young man of course felt what do I need

635
00:28:41,399 --> 00:28:44,999
this old fart for no way uh anyway we

636
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,918
met and we met a number of times and um

637
00:28:47,919 --> 00:28:49,879
finally Eric got comfortable enough with

638
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,798
me for uh for us to join up and and

639
00:28:52,799 --> 00:28:56,359
partner on this thing and um it it's

640
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:57,798
interesting cuz I mean we are sort of

641
00:28:57,799 --> 00:28:59,278
different generations and and we

642
00:28:59,279 --> 00:29:01,759
approach um drama in kind of a different

643
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,479
way um but as we sort of work together

644
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,719
we found that we always we really arrive

645
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,879
at the same place even though kind of

646
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,319
the the methods are a little different

647
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,479
of how we get there and it's uh can you

648
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,119
explain what you mean when you say that

649
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,599
coming from different Generations you

650
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:16,759
approach drama in different way well I

651
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:17,879
don't know if that's a generational

652
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,599
thing but I'm very uh

653
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:26,830
sober drunk there's that yeah

654
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:31,558
um this is so boring but um for um I I I

655
00:29:31,559 --> 00:29:32,999
kind of come in everything from a

656
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,959
character stand point of view it's it's

657
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,759
all about character to me and I like to

658
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,719
let the plot work itself out given what

659
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,759
the characters are going to do and what

660
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,319
I'm interested in the scenes is how that

661
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,079
you know it drives the plot but I'm most

662
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:47,999
interested in how the characters react

663
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,798
to it um and and so the stories I do

664
00:29:51,799 --> 00:29:53,558
tend to get a little like like this but

665
00:29:53,559 --> 00:29:54,599
the character stuff is probably

666
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,999
interesting Eric really works very very

667
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,639
hard on the story

668
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,278
uh and gets the plot down and knows that

669
00:30:00,279 --> 00:30:02,839
once his plot is good the the character

670
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,879
stuff will come naturally to that so we

671
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,239
sort of go like this when we're in the

672
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,599
room together and we we'll arrive at

673
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,199
that place which both things are

674
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,359
serviced and and I think you're we're

675
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,038
really in sort of one voice now that we

676
00:30:17,039 --> 00:30:19,759
we rarely disagree on stuff and it's uh

677
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,158
you know I've worked alone for a long

678
00:30:21,159 --> 00:30:22,719
time so it's kind of really cool to have

679
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,639
a partner yeah and to to blow smoke up

680
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,398
his ass for a minute um he brings a

681
00:30:28,399 --> 00:30:31,158
depth uh uh and and and maturity of char

682
00:30:31,159 --> 00:30:33,678
of character of just depth to the drama

683
00:30:33,679 --> 00:30:37,518
that I could not do you know me on me

684
00:30:37,519 --> 00:30:41,918
alone like is Boogeyman and

685
00:30:41,919 --> 00:30:44,359
and and and like all of a sudden with

686
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,199
him like you know we have a a show where

687
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:47,278
you have these characters that are

688
00:30:47,279 --> 00:30:49,278
psychologically rich and true and and

689
00:30:49,279 --> 00:30:52,558
and and Bob is is behind huge amounts of

690
00:30:52,559 --> 00:30:55,798
that so we the show would not succeed at

691
00:30:55,799 --> 00:30:58,918
all without him so

692
00:30:58,919 --> 00:31:03,558
oh a come on give kiss

693
00:31:03,559 --> 00:31:06,319
we let me ask one more question before I

694
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:07,839
before I open this up but this is for

695
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,999
the writers mostly um which I guess is

696
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,999
Eric and John but um you know Eric

697
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,079
you've been quoted um is saying that uh

698
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,798
you know this show differs from a lot of

699
00:31:17,799 --> 00:31:20,239
the other uh suspense or Supernatural

700
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,359
shows that you said there because you

701
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:23,959
don't want to get involved so much in

702
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,079
those long drawn out stories or or the

703
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,319
mythology so much as you just I don't

704
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:29,678
know whether these are accurate quotes

705
00:31:29,679 --> 00:31:32,599
but you want to um just focus on scaring

706
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,959
people and on the on the urban uh

707
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,959
folklore and and and so on and just

708
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,319
scaring people but um I think I I I

709
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:41,999
speaking for myself and and maybe some

710
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,239
people out here too I find the mythology

711
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,558
uh with the kids with their mom and

712
00:31:46,559 --> 00:31:49,918
their their dad and uh um you know one

713
00:31:49,919 --> 00:31:51,479
of the really compelling parts of the

714
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,158
story so um I'm wondering how you just

715
00:31:54,159 --> 00:31:55,798
and I and you know you start to see even

716
00:31:55,799 --> 00:31:57,518
with the last episode that aired last

717
00:31:57,519 --> 00:31:59,319
Tuesday you're starting to see you guys

718
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,558
are coming back to that um and I'm

719
00:32:01,559 --> 00:32:03,239
wondering how do you decide when it's

720
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,359
time to sort of Veer away from what

721
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,199
xfiles used to call the monster of the

722
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,879
week story and come back to the

723
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,918
mythology of the show so it's really for

724
00:32:11,919 --> 00:32:13,398
John and Eric how do you decide when

725
00:32:13,399 --> 00:32:15,759
it's time to do that or joh uh two

726
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,839
things I mean a lot of painful uh hair

727
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,678
pulling discussions and arguments and

728
00:32:19,679 --> 00:32:21,479
when should we and when shouldn't we but

729
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:22,839
part of it is driven too by just the

730
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,398
nature of Television you want to save

731
00:32:24,399 --> 00:32:27,518
some of your big moments for sweeps and

732
00:32:27,519 --> 00:32:30,199
so you kind of work the season around

733
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,239
that works actually a very nice uh five

734
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,599
or six episodes that are non mythology

735
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,079
and then you can you can pull the

736
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,038
mythology back and and again due to the

737
00:32:41,039 --> 00:32:42,798
nature of Television you want to end the

738
00:32:42,799 --> 00:32:46,239
season with some something astounding

739
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,239
and uh also going to back to what Bob

740
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,239
was saying the mythology is all about

741
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:52,879
character it's all about what the boys

742
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,798
are going through and family and so

743
00:32:54,799 --> 00:32:56,158
that's where we are going to head when

744
00:32:56,159 --> 00:32:58,558
we want to do something spectacular so

745
00:32:58,559 --> 00:33:00,798
yeah we we had a we have and

746
00:33:00,799 --> 00:33:02,879
surprisingly have stuck to it we have a

747
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,918
a a a mythology plan for season one we

748
00:33:06,919 --> 00:33:08,798
also have you know God willing a pickup

749
00:33:08,799 --> 00:33:10,199
we have mythology plans for season two

750
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,839
and season 3 but we have this plan of

751
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,918
where the story goes in in yeah on the

752
00:33:16,919 --> 00:33:21,518
CW on the CW we get to see this um and

753
00:33:21,519 --> 00:33:23,518
and so you know it was sort of the plan

754
00:33:23,519 --> 00:33:26,278
which is the first seven or about really

755
00:33:26,279 --> 00:33:28,038
first seven episodes you wanted these

756
00:33:28,039 --> 00:33:29,398
self- enclosed stories so you could kind

757
00:33:29,399 --> 00:33:30,678
of pick up new viewers and then you

758
00:33:30,679 --> 00:33:32,199
start threading in a little bit more

759
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:33,599
mythology but I think it's a balance

760
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,678
because I mean it's my own just you know

761
00:33:35,679 --> 00:33:37,678
kind of personal taste which is I mean I

762
00:33:37,679 --> 00:33:39,319
like a you know I want a satisfying

763
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,918
story every week too and and um you know

764
00:33:42,919 --> 00:33:45,158
I mean lost is an Untouchable show I

765
00:33:45,159 --> 00:33:46,518
mean it's an it's a brilliant and

766
00:33:46,519 --> 00:33:48,079
unbelievable show but I I I find the

767
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,599
endless mystery my own taste

768
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,999
frustrating um and and if you're going

769
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,319
to give ongoing mystery all right people

770
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,479
who believe and if you're going to give

771
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,638
ongoing mystery at least give like a

772
00:34:00,639 --> 00:34:03,678
rolicking badass story apart from it

773
00:34:03,679 --> 00:34:05,199
that can can have a beginning middle and

774
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,158
end and you can be satisfied and the

775
00:34:07,159 --> 00:34:08,878
good guys can win and you and you can

776
00:34:08,879 --> 00:34:10,358
have the experience of being told a

777
00:34:10,359 --> 00:34:12,279
story and then you know thread in the

778
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:13,719
ongoing mystery so I think it's it's

779
00:34:13,720 --> 00:34:15,039
it's keeping a lot of different plates

780
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:16,239
spinning and it's not it shouldn't be

781
00:34:16,240 --> 00:34:18,319
any one thing or or another do you know

782
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,918
where this story ends um I do actually

783
00:34:21,919 --> 00:34:23,358
yeah does anyone else on this panel know

784
00:34:23,359 --> 00:34:24,999
where the strands yeah but if we tell

785
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,878
you we have to kill you yeah yeah I mean

786
00:34:27,879 --> 00:34:30,239
it's hard because you never know when

787
00:34:30,240 --> 00:34:31,719
you're going to get cancelled or if

788
00:34:31,720 --> 00:34:34,519
you're going to go you know 37 years

789
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,678
like gunm smoke or something uh oh God

790
00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:42,158
please but uh yeah boys are in Walkers

791
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:47,589
yeah

792
00:34:47,599 --> 00:34:49,878
right they'll finish up the season and

793
00:34:49,879 --> 00:34:52,319
then they'll slowly die

794
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,719
yeah and uh so but but yes we have you

795
00:34:55,720 --> 00:34:58,598
know really a f if if I could somehow

796
00:34:58,599 --> 00:35:00,199
find out what the last season was going

797
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,679
to be or or or a five six year plan I

798
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,639
mean I sort of know the you know the

799
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,999
final you know battle as it were that

800
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,279
that all shapes up and but yeah you know

801
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,118
we're going have to wait yeah okay let's

802
00:35:12,119 --> 00:35:14,078
take some questions from the audience um

803
00:35:14,079 --> 00:35:16,999
I'm gonna call on two people um first

804
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,479
question a second question please wait

805
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,358
for the mic because this event is being

806
00:35:20,359 --> 00:35:23,439
taped so we need to be able to hear you

807
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,799
uh okay there's one all the way in the

808
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,239
back over there and then there's one in

809
00:35:27,240 --> 00:35:30,319
a green shirt right down

810
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,598
here we can start down here with the

811
00:35:32,599 --> 00:35:36,790
green shirt and then go to the back

812
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,358
question sorry I had to take out my gum

813
00:35:39,359 --> 00:35:41,919
hi um I'm let me just say I'm originally

814
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,039
from Sacramento so I I wanted to know if

815
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:45,759
there's any significance with their dad

816
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,759
John being in Sacramento twice or just

817
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:52,318
random or spoilery or you wrote it John

818
00:35:52,319 --> 00:35:53,719
why do

819
00:35:53,720 --> 00:35:58,159
he I don't want to give it away yet

820
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,039
so yes there is so

821
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,679
there's I'm not going to tell you

822
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,919
either I want to know yeah why after

823
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,759
after thanks a lot tickets for a

824
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,838
sacrament of game so there there the

825
00:36:09,839 --> 00:36:11,118
answer is that there is but you're not

826
00:36:11,119 --> 00:36:13,318
going to say what it is exactly okay and

827
00:36:13,319 --> 00:36:14,639
speaking of location is there any

828
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,679
significance to Lawrence Kansas that it

829
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,838
started in Lawrence Kansas um have to

830
00:36:19,839 --> 00:36:23,078
get that uh I would say well uh uh if

831
00:36:23,079 --> 00:36:25,959
anyone does a uh uh in other words yes

832
00:36:27,720 --> 00:36:29,159
yes there there is and and the and the one

833
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:30,799
there there is and and the and the one
thing I'd say is because we tend to be

834
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,959
really research oriented in our show and

835
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,358
about American urban legends and there's

836
00:36:34,359 --> 00:36:37,439
a there's a very famous urban legend uh

837
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:41,399
near Lawrence Kansas um factors yeah you

838
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:42,719
know if you guys go home do Google

839
00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:44,159
searches on Lawrence Kansas some stuff

840
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:45,759
will come up and do you guys know what

841
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,598
it is Jared and Jensen I don't think

842
00:36:47,599 --> 00:36:50,959
I've ever told you yeah oh yeah of

843
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,799
course I'm deciding when I'm going to

844
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,719
tell kky what it is honestly tell in the

845
00:36:56,720 --> 00:36:59,039
back all the way

846
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:00,919
hi um just want to say I'm from Texas

847
00:37:03,079 --> 00:37:05,679
too so anyway I had a question um for

848
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,759
so anyway I had a question um for
everybody what urban legend or folklore

849
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,519
really does scare you

850
00:37:13,119 --> 00:37:14,719
guys Kim

851
00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:19,030
Kim
um nothing scares

852
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,679
me that's true I I direct television and

853
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,919
so you know if if you if you can live

854
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,719
through that nothing scares you

855
00:37:28,720 --> 00:37:31,559
really good answer yeah that's

856
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:35,559
true what scares you John late scripts

857
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,879
yeah yeah you do when you call me and

858
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,959
say where's the damn scrip that's

859
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,639
frightening any any you guys I've been

860
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,279
dealing with them all season man all

861
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,159
about those bees you know what I I'll

862
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,239
I'll say something I uh my daddy used to

863
00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:54,239
make me watch a show called shadowman or

864
00:37:54,240 --> 00:37:55,879
something when I was growing up and it

865
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,239
was about a shadow that lived under this

866
00:37:57,240 --> 00:38:01,759
kid bed and uh he was sort of what's

867
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,039
that and anyways and uh it was his buddy

868
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,559
he wasn't very popular in school and so

869
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,399
the shadow man started kind of getting

870
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,479
all the bullies for him and then one day

871
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,318
came another kid Shadow Man and got him

872
00:38:13,319 --> 00:38:19,470
yeah probably not

873
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,358
scary ahead someone has to give her a

874
00:38:22,359 --> 00:38:24,679
straight answer yeah hookman freaked me

875
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,039
out when I was a kid the killer with the

876
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:27,118
hook all the different stories of the

877
00:38:27,119 --> 00:38:29,679
killer with the hook of uh you know the

878
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:30,838
the aren't you glad aren't you glad you

879
00:38:30,839 --> 00:38:32,039
didn't turn on the light I thought was

880
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,959
really cool and there's uh the licked

881
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,959
hand have you ever heard the licked hand

882
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,519
which is a really cool one and um so

883
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,199
like that that was always you know

884
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,679
really sort of sort of freaky for me

885
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,118
okay let's take two more questions um

886
00:38:45,119 --> 00:38:47,759
we'll get this one down here and uh

887
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,399
there's one all the way in the back

888
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,039
right right next to you

889
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:53,919
right go

890
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:58,199
ahead um in the pilot we know that

891
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,519
uh when Sam wanted to go to college John

892
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:04,159
told him to get lost and um he's in his

893
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:05,639
presumably his fourth year because he's

894
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,919
interviewing for law school um but he

895
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:10,358
says that he hasn't talked to Dean in

896
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,439
two years is there an answer to what

897
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:15,919
years is there an answer to what
happened two years

898
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,358
ago uh you mean is that actually Eric I

899
00:39:19,359 --> 00:39:22,829
have an answer

900
00:39:22,839 --> 00:39:24,799
to well you know I know you're supposed

901
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,039
to you know do what shyan does which is

902
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:27,999
kind of good

903
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,559
you'll find

904
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:34,239
out but uh fact of the matter was is uh

905
00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:35,759
you know these things happen so fast and

906
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,479
furious and and that it was actually a

907
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,598
mistake um we we

908
00:39:41,599 --> 00:39:44,358
wanted Jared is or Sam's character is

909
00:39:44,359 --> 00:39:46,358
supposed to be a junior in college and

910
00:39:46,359 --> 00:39:49,598
starting the interviewing process for uh

911
00:39:49,599 --> 00:39:52,039
the interviewing process for law school

912
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,199
and uh so hasn't seen him since he let

913
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:55,358
so he spent his freshman year and his

914
00:39:55,359 --> 00:39:56,879
sophomore year away from Dean and hasn't

915
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:57,959
seen Dean

916
00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,759
then this is beginning of junior year

917
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,039
this is fall of junior year so it's been

918
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:03,879
technically two years as he's beginning

919
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,838
the process but because I think because

920
00:40:06,839 --> 00:40:09,559
what happened you know you guys you know

921
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,479
the the you know online like sort of

922
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,879
putting it all because what happened 22

923
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,399
years ago he he was slightly older than

924
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,078
a junior should be so no one sort of

925
00:40:17,079 --> 00:40:19,358
bought that he was a junior and so there

926
00:40:19,359 --> 00:40:20,719
was a lot of discussion of these two

927
00:40:20,720 --> 00:40:22,999
lost years and just and I just like he

928
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:31,399
he like just a mistake you you
want

929
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,399
he but hold on let me give you the real

930
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,039
answer you'll find

931
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,719
out now you're talking okay in the back

932
00:40:39,720 --> 00:40:42,719
are there any stories about uh the show

933
00:40:42,720 --> 00:40:44,639
being too scary like you do tradeoffs

934
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:45,999
with the network like they say well you

935
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,598
can have two seconds of this you know

936
00:40:47,599 --> 00:40:50,318
bloody face if you do this or

937
00:40:50,319 --> 00:40:52,719
that yeah yeah we've run into a few few

938
00:40:52,720 --> 00:40:54,679
times that season this season we about

939
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:58,358
night the a nightmare was the first time

940
00:40:58,359 --> 00:41:00,719
all right yeah yeah I mean you get into

941
00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:04,799
really strange discussions of um can we

942
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:09,318
not see the decapitated decapitated head

943
00:41:09,319 --> 00:41:11,919
roll and then you start arguing about

944
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,799
well can do a half a

945
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,759
turn say okay you can do a half a turn

946
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,439
but the blood gush can't be for two

947
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,559
seconds it has to be for one sec um so

948
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,399
those are ongoing discussions but

949
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:26,679
actually the Network's been great we

950
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,159
really pushed envelope in every sense

951
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:30,919
and uh they let us get away with more

952
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:32,318
than I thought they would that was also

953
00:41:32,319 --> 00:41:35,199
on the uh when the gun rig yeah the gun

954
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,439
rig with me when nightmare the episode

955
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,199
nightmare was the the first and only

956
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:41,719
time we've ever had issues with

957
00:41:41,720 --> 00:41:43,479
standards and practices and so

958
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:44,838
everything else they just were like give

959
00:41:44,839 --> 00:41:46,559
us more and we again we were shocked by

960
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,598
that but the the the there's a scene

961
00:41:48,599 --> 00:41:49,799
where it's a it's a vision it doesn't

962
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,318
really happen but where Dean gets his

963
00:41:51,319 --> 00:41:55,959
brains blown out in Nightmare and and

964
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:57,279
and we actually rigged and we thought

965
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:58,879
like you know we rigged it so the rig

966
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:00,519
was awesome yeah you you rigged it so

967
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,559
the shot actually goes into his forehead

968
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,159
and and the blood explodes out the back

969
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:06,799
under the wall we were like haha this is

970
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,679
our lead and we're just you know but and

971
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,439
and and network was like no way giant

972
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,799
this giant backpack filled with like

973
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,559
grapes and and corn

974
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,799
syrup and uh and and it was this tube

975
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,479
just kind of coming right right out of

976
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,239
the back and uh from the head on and I

977
00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:26,039
had a little button in my hand and they

978
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:27,879
just yelled action and we timed it with

979
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,318
a gunshot and I hit the button and gave

980
00:42:30,319 --> 00:42:32,479
a reaction and the whole wall went Splat

981
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,959
you know way it was an awesome rig but

982
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:36,838
then they ended up having to cut to just

983
00:42:36,839 --> 00:42:39,078
the Splat and then back to me back with

984
00:42:39,079 --> 00:42:40,879
the hole but the uh the director of that

985
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,999
episode is here tonight sitting next to

986
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:51,910
my wife as it is stand

987
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,838
up and uh when I looked at those dieses

988
00:42:55,839 --> 00:42:57,999
uh and I called Phil and I said he said

989
00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,558
how are they how are they is you know

990
00:42:59,559 --> 00:43:01,838
cuz Kim can tell you all those directors

991
00:43:01,839 --> 00:43:04,199
are so self-confident that we don't need

992
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:05,598
constant approval or

993
00:43:05,599 --> 00:43:08,159
anything um and he said I said they're

994
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,159
great Phil but what the hell are you

995
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,279
doing and he said well you know they'll

996
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:13,479
look at that and they'll give me all the

997
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,479
rest of the stuff

998
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,399
so we actually play a game with bsp

999
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,439
broad broadcast standards and practice

1000
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,199
where we cut the show and we cut it way

1001
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,358
too violent so then they come in and

1002
00:43:24,359 --> 00:43:26,118
they go well you have to take out four

1003
00:43:26,119 --> 00:43:29,399
frames of that show shot and you go oh

1004
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,318
God not four frames yes four frames so

1005
00:43:32,319 --> 00:43:34,479
you take it out but you always knew that

1006
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,439
you didn't need those four frames so we

1007
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,919
kind of stacked the

1008
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,439
deck okay there's a question over there

1009
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:47,190
in the corner and there's one back

1010
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:55,710
there over there

1011
00:43:55,720 --> 00:43:59,199
too oh okay um well we've had the

1012
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:00,959
question about what Urban myths scare

1013
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,719
you but for those of you who are

1014
00:44:02,720 --> 00:44:04,759
actually on set regularly has there ever

1015
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,838
been you know a blood splatter or that

1016
00:44:07,839 --> 00:44:10,358
freaky scarecrow or anything that just

1017
00:44:10,359 --> 00:44:12,318
really creeped you out just to be around

1018
00:44:12,319 --> 00:44:14,799
on set even though you knew it was

1019
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,879
plastic or you know Caro syrup or

1020
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,639
something I know one and just one time

1021
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,519
randomly we're uh we were filming skin

1022
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,199
the episode where he's a shape shifter

1023
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:27,879
and we are inside this house This

1024
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:31,318
brilliant house yeah it was show and um

1025
00:44:31,319 --> 00:44:33,679
we were inside this house and just this

1026
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,078
clock on the wall just up and leaned

1027
00:44:36,079 --> 00:44:38,078
over and fell off just this round clock

1028
00:44:38,079 --> 00:44:40,199
no one was near it no one was hammering

1029
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:41,719
on the wall outside it just kind of fell

1030
00:44:41,720 --> 00:44:43,919
off and everybody sort of looked around

1031
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,519
but instead of kind of going who did

1032
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,598
that we all just like ignore it and go

1033
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,598
back doing just tried decided to not look

1034
00:44:51,599 --> 00:44:54,439
doing just tried decided to not look
into it any further the way real brave

1035
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:55,759
people do it

1036
00:44:55,760 --> 00:45:01,318
just so the um the show Asylum uh was oh

1037
00:45:01,319 --> 00:45:03,719
yeah um

1038
00:45:03,720 --> 00:45:07,239
yeah that was that was shot in an actual

1039
00:45:07,240 --> 00:45:11,519
abandoned uh mental institute and so uh

1040
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,239
the the halls and the rooms and and were

1041
00:45:14,240 --> 00:45:18,719
all very used at one point and and uh

1042
00:45:18,720 --> 00:45:20,838
you know it said that the crew says not

1043
00:45:20,839 --> 00:45:23,598
to go up to the fourth floor and then

1044
00:45:23,599 --> 00:45:25,519
you know don't and and I remember we

1045
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,999
broke for lunch and uh I thought I'd be

1046
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,870
you know clever and take a

1047
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,439
shortcut I I came down a stairwell and

1048
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,279
went into to one door and it was just a

1049
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,639
long dark hallway cuz there's no lights

1050
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,279
on the only lights on it are what the

1051
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,199
the film crew puts out and uh I was like

1052
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,879
well it's not that

1053
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,318
long I can make

1054
00:45:50,319 --> 00:45:55,030
it that freaked me

1055
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,439
out okay Dean what when Winchester

1056
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,270
ladies and

1057
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,318
genten afraid of

1058
00:46:03,319 --> 00:46:08,639
nothing in the back over there

1059
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,959
yeah now that there's a new network that

1060
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:12,358
you're probably going to be moving to

1061
00:46:12,359 --> 00:46:14,919
the CW are they going to loosen up and

1062
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,039
give us a little more nc17 like we got

1063
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,529
the Jensen story line the other

1064
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:25,919
[Music] week week
Bob I'm

1065
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:32,390
confused SE what sex all right

1066
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:36,270
oh how can I

1067
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:40,159
forget thank you for that man sure Happy

1068
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:46,239
Birthday J birth um you know I mean CW is huge on

1069
00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:51,390
J birth um you know I mean CW is huge on
full frontal male nudity

1070
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:55,279
so I think there's a lot in store stay

1071
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,358
tuned you know I mean we'll give him you

1072
00:46:57,359 --> 00:46:58,919
know we'll give them love interests and

1073
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:03,630
love stories as it's

1074
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:08,069
appropriate we're going to

1075
00:47:08,079 --> 00:47:12,479
need um okay well uh take one there and

1076
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,799
one in the middle oh jeez one down here

1077
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,078
and one in the

1078
00:47:16,079 --> 00:47:19,078
middle yeah yeah you

1079
00:47:19,079 --> 00:47:21,679
just hi um first of all thanks so much

1080
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,679
for being here um if you guys are always

1081
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,999
like this can I come work on your set

1082
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,558
yeah thank you'all guys for being here

1083
00:47:28,559 --> 00:47:30,279
yeah thank

1084
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:34,358
you honestly um so we came into this

1085
00:47:34,359 --> 00:47:35,838
story uh when the boys are already

1086
00:47:35,839 --> 00:47:37,239
adults and I know there's a lot to

1087
00:47:37,240 --> 00:47:38,838
explore in the future but I was

1088
00:47:38,839 --> 00:47:40,679
wondering about the past um because I

1089
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,479
know that there's a lot of speculation

1090
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:43,719
about what their childhood was like

1091
00:47:43,720 --> 00:47:45,919
growing up um moving around how much

1092
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,679
Miller time dad was doing and how samon

1093
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,598
just met stuff like that so I was just

1094
00:47:50,599 --> 00:47:52,039
wondering um if you were going to

1095
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:53,838
explore that aspect of their lives we

1096
00:47:53,839 --> 00:47:55,838
just uh it's funny you say that we just

1097
00:47:55,839 --> 00:47:59,558
yesterday uh uh actually I think uh I'm

1098
00:47:59,559 --> 00:48:00,799
talking to Brad who's at the network I

1099
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,719
think you're getting a cut on Monday um

1100
00:48:03,720 --> 00:48:06,318
uh of an episode that uh not only do the

1101
00:48:06,319 --> 00:48:08,318
boys in in present day you know deal

1102
00:48:08,319 --> 00:48:09,999
with a creature but uh it's a creature

1103
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:11,399
they dealt with in the past and there's

1104
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,118
extensive flashbacks to uhh Sam and Dean

1105
00:48:14,119 --> 00:48:16,199
and John as their you know as the boys

1106
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,959
children and Dad and you get to see a uh

1107
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,039
an element of of what their past was

1108
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,479
like of what their childhood was like um

1109
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,078
and it was I'm really happy how it

1110
00:48:25,079 --> 00:48:26,999
turned out and you know we we wanted try

1111
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,358
it once and I think it'll be happening a

1112
00:48:28,359 --> 00:48:29,999
lot more because there's this great

1113
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,838
22-year window of of what happened and

1114
00:48:32,839 --> 00:48:34,358
and and we that's there's a lot of story

1115
00:48:34,359 --> 00:48:36,118
there that you can you can flesh out so

1116
00:48:36,119 --> 00:48:37,199
I I think we're definitely going to go

1117
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,439
there because it's coming up in uh I

1118
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,199
think uh April that episode and it I I

1119
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:43,239
was really pleased with how it turned

1120
00:48:43,240 --> 00:48:45,118
out so yeah we're another positive is

1121
00:48:45,119 --> 00:48:46,639
that if if little Sam and little Dean

1122
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,318
are filming big Sam and big Dean are

1123
00:48:48,319 --> 00:48:51,679
sleeping yeah right so there's that so

1124
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:58,349
keep pushing flash very important

1125
00:48:58,359 --> 00:49:10,829
okay there was a question there in the middle middle
okay

1126
00:49:10,839 --> 00:49:13,598
Dean Dean always wears a SE to necklace

1127
00:49:13,599 --> 00:49:15,919
does it mean

1128
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:17,999
anything you going to hang me out to dry

1129
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,039
on this one oh

1130
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,439
yeah I mean we can't I mean it does but

1131
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,439
we can't yeah it it it does have

1132
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,159
significance and it it'll it but we

1133
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:28,879
can't talk about it

1134
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:36,069
yeah it's from

1135
00:49:36,079 --> 00:49:38,039
Sacramento that's a great question

1136
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:39,118
though that you picked up on that

1137
00:49:39,119 --> 00:49:43,270
necklace so

1138
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,719
um okay I'm trying to spread them out uh

1139
00:49:46,720 --> 00:49:48,639
you got somebody back there okay and

1140
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,598
then this woman down here in the red

1141
00:49:51,599 --> 00:49:55,399
shirt but go ahead in the back first um

1142
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,239
I thought I heard you guys mentioned on

1143
00:49:57,240 --> 00:49:59,199
a show one time you guys do green screen

1144
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:00,479
blue screen that kind of thing for

1145
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,798
special effects has that gotten a lot

1146
00:50:02,799 --> 00:50:05,039
easier for you to do and kind

1147
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,239
of you know fake

1148
00:50:08,240 --> 00:50:11,279
it yeah and um and the second part to

1149
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,358
the question was uh when the DVD set

1150
00:50:13,359 --> 00:50:14,479
comes out are you guys going to have a

1151
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,439
lot of behind the scenes jokes cuz yeah

1152
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:18,679
this is

1153
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,358
funny we uh we actually just had a film

1154
00:50:21,359 --> 00:50:23,519
crew on set with us uh this past week

1155
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:24,879
doing behind the scenes stuff for the

1156
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:29,829
DVD so

1157
00:50:29,839 --> 00:50:31,999
um going back to your first question the

1158
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,279
green screen and uh and stuff we we do

1159
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:40,159
do a lot of I said you said do do you

1160
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:48,358
said do do
[Laughter]

1161
00:50:48,359 --> 00:50:51,558
um we do work a lot

1162
00:50:51,559 --> 00:50:57,190
with dooo

1163
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:01,479
Jared you can take this one yeah

1164
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,759
um as Kim and Jensen were saying we do

1165
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,078
do and uh no we do it was it was I guess

1166
00:51:08,079 --> 00:51:09,519
it was a big learning process for

1167
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,118
everybody just you know it's it's a very

1168
00:51:11,119 --> 00:51:14,279
interesting sort of task to be given to

1169
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,279
especially these kind of crazy either

1170
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:17,719
emotional sequences or these crazy

1171
00:51:17,720 --> 00:51:19,679
physical sequences when they're like all

1172
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,199
right now um you're in the woods and uh

1173
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,598
you know you it's dark and it's scary

1174
00:51:24,599 --> 00:51:26,159
and you're hearing things and then you

1175
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:27,399
look behind you and there's just this

1176
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,279
big blue wall with tape and you know a

1177
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:31,479
couple crew guys standing back there

1178
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,479
smoking cigarettes you know cursing and showing

1179
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,879
cigarettes you know cursing and showing
off tattoos and so it's it's it's uh I

1180
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,118
think I've speaking for myself I hope

1181
00:51:41,119 --> 00:51:42,439
I've gotten more of a hang of it and

1182
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:43,919
aside from just the actual green screen

1183
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:45,999
of it that we can just be in a normal

1184
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:49,959
set and and they're going to um visual

1185
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:51,959
effects will will then put in something

1186
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,399
like Phantom Traveler with the uh the

1187
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:55,759
smoke that would come out of the vents

1188
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,239
and and stuff like that that's not

1189
00:51:57,240 --> 00:52:00,279
something that we obviously see um so we

1190
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,078
have to pretend that it's there and

1191
00:52:02,079 --> 00:52:03,639
there's no real green screen work going

1192
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:05,479
on there but there's also an episode

1193
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,399
coming up that Kim directed called

1194
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:11,719
shadows and we deal with uh yeah just

1195
00:52:11,720 --> 00:52:13,759
well what happened in Shad well did you

1196
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,679
see seen it do you

1197
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:19,759
remember he loves my own work yeah right

1198
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,959
if you remember the shot where Meg did

1199
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,719
the highfall they hung her six feet off the

1200
00:52:25,720 --> 00:52:28,959
highfall they hung her six feet off the
ground and she was was picked we call it

1201
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,039
picked with two wires on her hips and

1202
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:32,439
she was looking up at the camera and

1203
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:34,358
doing this

1204
00:52:34,359 --> 00:52:36,639
hello she was looking up at the camera

1205
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,519
doing this and she just laid back and she just

1206
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,118
this and she just laid back and she just
laid out and flattened out and they

1207
00:52:44,119 --> 00:52:46,759
dropped her visually with the computer

1208
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,118
seven stories she never went anyway that

1209
00:52:49,119 --> 00:52:51,078
was all just in one place and then when

1210
00:52:51,079 --> 00:52:53,798
we ran up to the window she wasn't even

1211
00:52:53,799 --> 00:52:55,558
there and we were actually staring at a

1212
00:52:55,559 --> 00:52:57,759
a big Red

1213
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,558
X so Jensen does that mean that you guys

1214
00:53:00,559 --> 00:53:03,519
actually have to act or no no no no no

1215
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:04,999
I'm actually not here right

1216
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,199
now oh I'm kidding we're actually in

1217
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,118
Canada this is this is these are our

1218
00:53:09,119 --> 00:53:14,598
body doubles yeah

1219
00:53:14,599 --> 00:53:16,879
doubles yeah
here um I actually have two questions

1220
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:18,479
the first one is Jensen in a past

1221
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:19,838
interview um you said you were a

1222
00:53:19,839 --> 00:53:21,759
Christian I was wondering is it hard to

1223
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,838
do this kind of show like having that

1224
00:53:24,839 --> 00:53:26,558
background and the other question is and

1225
00:53:26,559 --> 00:53:27,719
episode I don't remember which one it

1226
00:53:27,720 --> 00:53:29,159
was you gave the phone number when

1227
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,039
you're trying to reach your dad you're

1228
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,118
like give me a call this is my number

1229
00:53:33,119 --> 00:53:35,519
but whenever you call you can you it

1230
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:36,959
says this is Dean Winchester and it says

1231
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,039
leave your coordinates did you ever hear

1232
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:40,199
like do you can you actually leave

1233
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:41,598
voicemail on there did you hear like did

1234
00:53:41,599 --> 00:53:43,399
you have a lot of fans leaving messages

1235
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,879
at that number because it wasn't a 555

1236
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,199
number it was very small to pick up on

1237
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,239
cuz my sister and I we watch it she

1238
00:53:50,240 --> 00:53:52,039
watches at her place I watch it at mine

1239
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:53,358
and I was like did you see the number

1240
00:53:53,359 --> 00:53:55,719
she's like was it a real number and so

1241
00:53:55,720 --> 00:53:59,390
anyway that was my

1242
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,479
question if you want to actually call

1243
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,589
him it's 800 wet

1244
00:54:04,599 --> 00:54:07,999
legs that's this is don't don't give out

1245
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,838
his number oh he oh you changed it oh

1246
00:54:13,319 --> 00:54:15,598
scratch it

1247
00:54:15,599 --> 00:54:19,318
it
um I'm lost what was the

1248
00:54:19,319 --> 00:54:22,078
question what something about you're a

1249
00:54:22,079 --> 00:54:26,598
Christian yes okay uh the first question

1250
00:54:26,599 --> 00:54:29,919
uh yes I was raised uh um a very

1251
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:33,879
religious family and and in that uh um I

1252
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,558
mean what I do this is you know we this

1253
00:54:36,559 --> 00:54:38,199
is acting we're telling stories I'm I'm

1254
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,558
I portray a character um you know does

1255
00:54:40,559 --> 00:54:44,199
my grandmother cringe sometimes yeah um

1256
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:45,798
but at the end of the day I'm I'm you

1257
00:54:45,799 --> 00:54:47,159
know it's it's something that I'm cool

1258
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,239
with uh and uh and then as far as the

1259
00:54:50,240 --> 00:54:52,239
the the phone numbers and I think

1260
00:54:52,240 --> 00:54:55,558
there's even webs there's a email

1261
00:54:55,559 --> 00:54:57,439
actually been a hug response to it yeah

1262
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,639
yeah we got a couple I listened I mean

1263
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:00,598
we couldn't listen to all of them but

1264
00:55:00,599 --> 00:55:02,118
there was a couple thousand voicemail

1265
00:55:02,119 --> 00:55:04,999
messages um of people who called and and

1266
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:06,639
uh I mean I listen to you know maybe you

1267
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,118
know 20 or 30 of them but some of them

1268
00:55:09,119 --> 00:55:11,279
are hilar they were like you know Sam

1269
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:12,798
and Dean there there's a ghost in my

1270
00:55:12,799 --> 00:55:14,798
attic you have to come

1271
00:55:14,799 --> 00:55:23,670
quick those were those were my favorites that's

1272
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:27,199
awesome all right uh whoa whoa

1273
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,558
wow yes can you do that

1274
00:55:30,559 --> 00:55:33,479
again um take one all the way in the

1275
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:38,358
back up there and one right here in the

1276
00:55:38,359 --> 00:55:41,399
front hi my son and I are really big

1277
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,239
fans uh and you guys are great and I

1278
00:55:44,240 --> 00:55:46,159
want to know what kind of car it is you

1279
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:51,679
drive it's it's great it's a uh 67 Chevy

1280
00:55:53,980 --> 00:56:00,029
Impala [Applause] [Applause]
[Laughter]

1281
00:56:00,039 --> 00:56:03,159
they're going to sell well yeah there it

1282
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,679
is and we've got about we've just bought

1283
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:07,399
our fifth one fifth one we got about

1284
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,719
five of them yeah that's why you can't

1285
00:56:09,720 --> 00:56:12,118
find them on eBay cuz we yeah we have

1286
00:56:13,240 --> 00:56:16,598
them all right there okay so let's talk about

1287
00:56:16,599 --> 00:56:20,959
all right there okay so let's talk about
the music yes yes yes all right I grew

1288
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:22,838
up in the 70s I grew up on the mullet

1289
00:56:22,839 --> 00:56:24,798
Rock so yeah let's talk about where the

1290
00:56:24,799 --> 00:56:27,519
inspiration came from that that was

1291
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,199
something that was really important to

1292
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,479
me uh coming into the show coming into

1293
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,639
the pilot um you know I'm I'm from a

1294
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,439
small town in Ohio and this is the music

1295
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,078
I listened to and I was a huge huge

1296
00:56:38,079 --> 00:56:42,679
Zeppelin fan and and so you know and so

1297
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:44,479
uh when it came time to write the pilot

1298
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,118
I and and produce it it was it was so

1299
00:56:46,119 --> 00:56:48,118
important to me that have that music and

1300
00:56:48,119 --> 00:56:50,279
and not have you know I'll I'll do

1301
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,118
respect to my beloved network not have

1302
00:56:52,119 --> 00:56:55,078
the music that's usually on that Network

1303
00:56:55,079 --> 00:56:56,879
um and and it was so important to me I

1304
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,519
was so like rabbit about it that in the

1305
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:01,959
original draft of the pilot I even wrote

1306
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,038
in the in the script I wrote Q music and

1307
00:57:04,039 --> 00:57:05,879
you can take your anemic alternative pop

1308
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:09,190
and shove it up your

1309
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,959
ass and uh and the and the reason I

1310
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:14,639
wrote the scene when they're in in the

1311
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:15,679
pilot they the scene where they're

1312
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:17,038
talking about tapes and he's like you

1313
00:57:17,039 --> 00:57:19,639
know ACDC you know uh Motorhead

1314
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:21,679
Metallica And the reason I wrote that in

1315
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:23,318
is I said well if we shoot that and it

1316
00:57:23,319 --> 00:57:24,798
gets into the pilot then we have to use

1317
00:57:24,799 --> 00:57:27,279
my music because it's already in the

1318
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:28,959
it's already in the it's in the show and

1319
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:30,439
they can't you know they can't put in

1320
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,358
some you know Sarah mlin in the in the

1321
00:57:32,359 --> 00:57:35,838
in the post so uh so you know this is

1322
00:57:35,839 --> 00:57:37,519
you know and we've had a great time I

1323
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:39,519
mean in and and with you know Phil also

1324
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:41,679
in postproduction with Bob of figuring

1325
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:43,719
out these songs and and coming in one

1326
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:45,239
morning and being like Oh Billy Squire

1327
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:46,439
what about Billy

1328
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,798
Squire and uh and I think it's like a

1329
00:57:48,799 --> 00:57:51,558
real signature to the show and and is is

1330
00:57:51,559 --> 00:57:53,078
the and it's plus it's Midwestern you

1331
00:57:53,079 --> 00:57:55,679
know it's like two guys from Kansas and

1332
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:57,279
a muscle and this is the music they

1333
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:00,399
listen to so um but it's I I mean I I

1334
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,719
love it there was the other night was

1335
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:04,078
Joe Walsh Rocky Mountain Way and I'm

1336
00:58:04,079 --> 00:58:06,679
just laughing my ass yeah Rocky Mountain

1337
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,078
Way I'm the

1338
00:58:09,079 --> 00:58:12,679
WB it also uh it also spreads because

1339
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:14,959
one of the editors said to me and he's a

1340
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:16,679
very hip guy and really good musically

1341
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:18,279
he I walk into his room we were going

1342
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:19,479
through songs I said well do this song

1343
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:21,919
do this song this two days later I walk

1344
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,679
in he goes you know Bad Company's really

1345
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,558
good [Applause]

1346
00:58:29,559 --> 00:58:30,959
[Applause]
okay let's take two questions from the

1347
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,078
middle one one over there and one on the

1348
00:58:34,119 --> 00:58:40,829
other side on this side and then one on that

1349
00:58:40,839 --> 00:58:45,558
side hi I'm an inspiring actor and I

1350
00:58:45,559 --> 00:58:47,999
wanted to know

1351
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,719
sorry I wanted to know um how hard was

1352
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,358
it for you two to get started

1353
00:58:53,359 --> 00:58:56,879
acting go ahead uh all right I'll feel

1354
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,399
this it's a uh it's not the first time

1355
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:00,679
I've actually heard that question and

1356
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:03,159
I'm I'm so at a loss for what to tell

1357
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:04,519
you I have a very interesting story when

1358
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:06,479
I was in high school I won a contest to

1359
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,279
be on the Teen Choice Awards and hold

1360
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,038
trophies and give them to Freddy Prince

1361
00:59:11,039 --> 00:59:12,279
Jr when he

1362
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:15,879
got best Hottie of pretty much downhill

1363
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:17,199
since then it's basically

1364
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,959
gone yeah and I just I wrote on Freddy

1365
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,719
Prince's coattails no um and I I met an

1366
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:24,639
agent at the uh at the show I met a

1367
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:26,679
manager actually and and dance I'm still

1368
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,239
with to this day my girl Sandy over

1369
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,919
there um he we we started kind of

1370
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,679
talking over the phone with sides and uh

1371
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:36,159
he had faith in me and I was going back

1372
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:37,679
to high school and I have a mommy that's

1373
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:38,919
a teacher and a daddy that was an

1374
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,118
accountant and uh they were like he's

1375
00:59:41,119 --> 00:59:42,639
finishing high school he's finishing

1376
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:44,199
high school and I was like why can't I

1377
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,519
go act why can't I go act and um anyways

1378
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:48,159
I flew out for about a week during pilot

1379
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:50,719
season and I booked a pilot and then I

1380
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:51,798
use that money to go out during the

1381
00:59:51,799 --> 00:59:53,318
summer so I had a really kind of crazy

1382
00:59:53,319 --> 00:59:54,598
interesting story but I have a lot of

1383
00:59:54,599 --> 00:59:56,759
buddies who are you know much more

1384
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:58,879
talented and and more committed than I

1385
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:00,558
am that are still struggling to make it

1386
01:00:00,559 --> 01:00:03,679
so it's a it's a tough tough industry

1387
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:05,558
but just you know keep working hard and

1388
01:00:05,559 --> 01:00:07,879
keep making yourself

1389
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,919
better Jensen how didd you get started

1390
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:12,719
um well I mean like Jared said there's

1391
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:16,439
there's really no set formula uh for for

1392
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:17,959
how we you know have gotten to where

1393
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:21,879
we've got um mine was kind of a a sheer

1394
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:24,239
luck thing as as well I was uh I was

1395
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,118
doing theater in in Dallas and I

1396
01:00:26,119 --> 01:00:28,558
happened to have a a talent agent from

1397
01:00:28,559 --> 01:00:30,639
from La sitting in and came up to me

1398
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:33,038
afterwards and gave me his his pitch and

1399
01:00:33,039 --> 01:00:35,959
I said n you're full of crap and I uh

1400
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,838
told him to buger off and uh and then he

1401
01:00:38,839 --> 01:00:40,798
went up to my my folks and kind of gave

1402
01:00:40,799 --> 01:00:42,399
him their pitch as well and I guess they

1403
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:43,879
seemed a little bit more interested and

1404
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:47,199
uh so a few years later after um his

1405
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,399
persistence I finally said maybe I'll go

1406
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:50,439
out there for a couple of months and

1407
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:53,159
check it out see if he's uh see if he'll

1408
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:56,239
talk to talk and uh I came out and and

1409
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:57,679
started working right away and that was

1410
01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:59,318
it was about eight or nine years

1411
01:00:59,319 --> 01:01:03,078
ago okay so question on that side first

1412
01:01:03,079 --> 01:01:05,318
of all um Shadow was a kick-ass episode

1413
01:01:05,319 --> 01:01:06,759
and I want to thank you all for that one

1414
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:09,358
cuz it was awesome but let's get down to

1415
01:01:09,359 --> 01:01:11,439
like what really matters what alcohol do

1416
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:13,959
you guys like to drink what alcohol do

1417
01:01:15,119 --> 01:01:17,358
you got because I see a lot of beers and

1418
01:01:17,359 --> 01:01:18,558
got because I see a lot of beers and
stuff in the episode and it's always my

1419
01:01:18,559 --> 01:01:19,999
thing to place what yall are drinking so

1420
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:22,479
I was just wondering you hard guys light

1421
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:27,950
guys what do you like

1422
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:31,598
oh my mom would kill me um yeah can we

1423
01:01:31,599 --> 01:01:32,999
cut the tape right

1424
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,798
now we rolling check check actually one

1425
01:01:35,799 --> 01:01:37,279
of the funny things about the uh about

1426
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,239
the beers is our our prop Master Chris

1427
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:43,358
Cooper um he's some of the beer labels

1428
01:01:43,359 --> 01:01:45,118
they're always fake

1429
01:01:45,119 --> 01:01:48,439
labels staple

1430
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:51,519
gun and uh they're always fake labels

1431
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:52,679
and it usually have something to do with

1432
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:53,999
the city that we're filming that episode

1433
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:55,318
in you know like if we're in Texas it'll

1434
01:01:55,319 --> 01:01:58,078
be like Lone Star logger if we're in

1435
01:01:58,079 --> 01:02:00,199
Minnesota it'll be like Timberwolf ale

1436
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,199
or something like that but you know

1437
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:04,598
we're Texas boys I think yeah we you

1438
01:02:04,599 --> 01:02:06,318
know we we probably drink what you

1439
01:02:06,319 --> 01:02:08,679
imagine a couple Texas boys would

1440
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:12,230
drink put in a

1441
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:15,239
cup that's right I have a question for

1442
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:17,750
you

1443
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:21,679
guys um I'm curious if this is possible

1444
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:23,239
to answer this question if you could

1445
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:25,159
pick a scene that you either wrote or

1446
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:27,038
acted in or directed that's probably

1447
01:02:27,039 --> 01:02:28,278
like your favorite scene that you've

1448
01:02:28,279 --> 01:02:30,439
worked on since the show started and if

1449
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:32,959
you can tell me why

1450
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,919
um anybody want to take Kim go ahead

1451
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:39,199
I'll take that uh shadow where the boys

1452
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:45,150
finally saw their

1453
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:48,199
father Shadow was I'm incredibly proud

1454
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:49,719
of because there were four great scenes

1455
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:52,358
the scene where the boys were arming up

1456
01:02:52,359 --> 01:02:54,879
and uh Dean blows at Sam and says why do

1457
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:57,479
you think I I got you out of Stanford in

1458
01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:59,078
the first place why' you think I came to

1459
01:02:59,079 --> 01:03:00,679
get you because I want us to be family

1460
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:05,069
again and

1461
01:03:05,079 --> 01:03:07,639
uh I'll tell you Jensen had a tough time

1462
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:09,358
with that and we kind of arm wrestled

1463
01:03:09,359 --> 01:03:12,318
over it and he and uh to get him there

1464
01:03:12,319 --> 01:03:15,078
and you know cuz cuz Dean is uh you know

1465
01:03:15,079 --> 01:03:17,239
he's got his walls up and to break down

1466
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:19,118
that wall for just a minute to look into

1467
01:03:19,119 --> 01:03:21,919
Dean's heart was was magical for me and

1468
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,558
then when they met dad in uh the

1469
01:03:24,559 --> 01:03:27,798
apartment uh and in the alley it was

1470
01:03:27,799 --> 01:03:32,159
just we worked very hard MH the boys

1471
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,879
they their game of tennis improves

1472
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,159
2,000% when they work with Jeffrey Dean

1473
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:41,118
or somebody like Nikki

1474
01:03:41,119 --> 01:03:45,358
ACX no we find the nuances and uh it it

1475
01:03:45,359 --> 01:03:48,159
and acting it becomes the crap that it

1476
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:51,439
is and it becomes real uh life and the

1477
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:53,798
words become their own and the emotions

1478
01:03:53,799 --> 01:03:56,879
become their own and that's special for

1479
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,358
me and not just to say this but having a

1480
01:03:59,359 --> 01:04:01,838
great director to tell you exactly what

1481
01:04:01,839 --> 01:04:04,759
to do doesn't make it hard so you know I

1482
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:06,798
think Jensen and I would tell you

1483
01:04:06,799 --> 01:04:09,919
thousand times every day that you know

1484
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:11,879
Kim got

1485
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:14,199
out hey Jensen did you not want to do

1486
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:15,558
that scene because you thought that Dean

1487
01:04:15,559 --> 01:04:20,078
wouldn't say that um yeah sometimes I I

1488
01:04:20,079 --> 01:04:21,759
I I guess I can be a little protective

1489
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,519
of just of of Dean and and him showing

1490
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:26,358
emotions and I you know you know I

1491
01:04:28,279 --> 01:04:30,639
always um and as an actor as you grow with a

1492
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:32,598
um and as an actor as you grow with a
character on a series you you really you

1493
01:04:32,599 --> 01:04:34,879
really kind of become close to it you

1494
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:37,479
you you protect it U you protect that

1495
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:39,159
character and um I guess that that was

1496
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,959
probably what what what that was in uh I

1497
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:44,919
just didn't I wasn't real sure

1498
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:49,838
how uh how much of the layers uh to peal

1499
01:04:49,839 --> 01:04:52,879
away in that scene and I guess in that

1500
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:55,159
confusion I just I kind of put up my own

1501
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:57,159
barrier but uh if there was anybody to

1502
01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:58,719
get me through it it was Kim so I'm glad

1503
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:01,358
he was there great yeah John you have a

1504
01:05:01,359 --> 01:05:04,519
favorite scene uh there was a moment in

1505
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:07,519
skin that that I'm proud of and actually

1506
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:09,399
in the it sort of says something about

1507
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:11,679
how we tell our stories CU we're always

1508
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:13,479
saying okay we want to do this type of

1509
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:15,399
episode we want to do this monster but

1510
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:16,719
how would Supernatural do it how is it

1511
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:18,798
special for our show and I I remember

1512
01:05:18,799 --> 01:05:20,479
being in in

1513
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:24,439
KK's palatial office Warner Brothers so

1514
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:27,919
fountains yeah and uh uh talking through

1515
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:30,318
the story of skin and the shape shifter

1516
01:05:30,319 --> 01:05:32,399
and obviously you know there's all kinds

1517
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:33,838
of shape shifting that's been done on

1518
01:05:33,839 --> 01:05:35,679
television and movies Etc and he said we

1519
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:38,838
got to find our own and uh we kicked it

1520
01:05:38,839 --> 01:05:42,078
around and came up with that scene uh

1521
01:05:42,079 --> 01:05:43,558
where Shape Shifter Dean goes down in

1522
01:05:43,559 --> 01:05:46,159
the sewer and and I remember reading a

1523
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:48,239
um uh some online post that some friend

1524
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:50,318
sent me that someone else a fan was

1525
01:05:50,319 --> 01:05:52,078
watching the show and giving her

1526
01:05:52,079 --> 01:05:54,639
impressions as she watched it oh my God

1527
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:57,278
Dean's taking his shirt off

1528
01:05:57,279 --> 01:05:59,759
and Then followed immediately followed

1529
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:01,199
immediately by oh my God he's taking his

1530
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:05,919
skin off I knew then that you know we had it

1531
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:10,069
off I knew then that you know we had it
and I was very I was very pleased with

1532
01:06:10,079 --> 01:06:13,239
that all the things we

1533
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:17,399
do Jansen you have a scene

1534
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:21,199
um yeah I I one of my favorite uh um

1535
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:23,919
it's not really a a a full scene but

1536
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,558
it's it's more of a shot um um and it

1537
01:06:26,559 --> 01:06:28,479
was in the it was in dead in the water

1538
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:32,479
with u Kim directed um where I I saved

1539
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:35,679
the little boy out of the lake uh and

1540
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:38,598
coming coming up out of the water um and

1541
01:06:38,599 --> 01:06:40,399
that was it was just it was you know

1542
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,919
slow motion shot it was very emotional

1543
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:44,919
coming out of the water and it was that

1544
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:46,959
was really neat um but the buildup to

1545
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:50,759
that shooting it was uh was

1546
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:53,558
really uh I had this you know

1547
01:06:53,559 --> 01:06:54,838
10-year-old boy in my hand and I'm

1548
01:06:54,839 --> 01:06:57,239
keeping both of us to float with one one

1549
01:06:57,240 --> 01:06:59,639
arm um because I can't move my feet

1550
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:01,318
because I got two divers holding my feet

1551
01:07:01,319 --> 01:07:04,159
below me who are about to pull me under

1552
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:06,558
and you know I'm I'm fine I grew up

1553
01:07:06,559 --> 01:07:08,879
swimming in lakes and and all my life

1554
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:11,278
but uh to have that sensation of

1555
01:07:11,279 --> 01:07:12,879
somebody pulling you

1556
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:15,959
underwater um especially when you've got

1557
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:18,639
the life of a a 10-year-old you know

1558
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:20,439
little actor in your hand and you're

1559
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:22,719
trying to keep him afloat and he's got

1560
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:24,558
to play dead it was just it was uh it

1561
01:07:24,559 --> 01:07:26,358
was a little overwhelming

1562
01:07:26,359 --> 01:07:29,239
and and it was definitely Unforgettable

1563
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:30,759
but uh we got through it we and it

1564
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:33,199
turned out to be an awesome shot that's

1565
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:35,318
a great story

1566
01:07:35,319 --> 01:07:37,679
jar uh you know what I've had some time

1567
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:39,118
to think

1568
01:07:39,119 --> 01:07:41,078
well they've answered their questions

1569
01:07:41,079 --> 01:07:42,959
and I'm going to go back to uh a scene

1570
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:44,879
in wendigo that we did at the very you

1571
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:46,239
know second episode of the year and I

1572
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:47,358
remember there was just such a long

1573
01:07:47,359 --> 01:07:49,479
period of time between the pilot and

1574
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:52,439
windigo it was what from March April

1575
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:55,919
till July and uh there was so questions

1576
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:56,879
in my head when I found that we were

1577
01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:58,078
getting picked up like what's going to

1578
01:07:58,079 --> 01:07:59,439
happen where are we going to start like

1579
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:01,399
how do we start how do we finish how do

1580
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:02,838
we continue this story that we started

1581
01:08:02,839 --> 01:08:04,558
in the pilot with so many things going

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01:08:04,559 --> 01:08:06,679
down how do we keep the momentum going

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01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:08,838
and there was this one particular scene

1584
01:08:08,839 --> 01:08:11,719
that uh Jensen and I did on stage where

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01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:13,199
he's got Dad's Journal he's saying this

1586
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:14,719
is what it's about and Sam is saying I

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01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:16,758
got to find dad and I remember we uh we

1588
01:08:16,759 --> 01:08:18,079
had a huge day that day we had like

1589
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:20,879
eight or nine pages of dialogue and uh

1590
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:22,198
Jensen and I realized that we had to do

1591
01:08:22,199 --> 01:08:26,158
this scene we're like oh crap like what

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01:08:26,159 --> 01:08:27,758
like let's go memorize it my trailer we

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01:08:27,759 --> 01:08:29,399
sat down on my trailer and there was an

1594
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:30,919
acting coach that I I work with whenever

1595
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:32,439
I can named Cameron Thor up there with

1596
01:08:32,440 --> 01:08:35,439
us and uh you know he kind of pushed and

1597
01:08:35,440 --> 01:08:36,758
prodded me a little bit and I don't know

1598
01:08:36,759 --> 01:08:41,879
what he did to Jensen but uh we we

1599
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:47,510
were I don't want to talk about it was

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01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:49,838
noisy never again that's between yell on

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01:08:49,839 --> 01:08:52,119
the wall but anyways we ended up we

1602
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:53,599
ended up kind of getting the scene and

1603
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:55,119
and putting something there and I I

1604
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:57,519
think um it was one of the first times I

1605
01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:01,559
ever felt like um I was I was hopefully

1606
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:03,278
doing what kpy wanted you know like I

1607
01:09:03,279 --> 01:09:05,238
think like I felt like you know I think

1608
01:09:05,239 --> 01:09:06,959
this is what Eric was envisioning like I

1609
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:08,798
really felt for some reason it was one

1610
01:09:08,799 --> 01:09:09,879
of those times when you finish a scene

1611
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:10,999
and you're like wow like I don't know

1612
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:13,599
where that came from but I don't know

1613
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:14,879
whatever I remember seeing the dailies

1614
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:16,399
on that too that we were just through

1615
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:17,919
the roof was

1616
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:22,639
incredible Bob uh I think uh my favorite scene is a

1617
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:25,439
Bob uh I think uh my favorite scene is a
really quiet scene and it's it um it's

1618
01:09:25,440 --> 01:09:27,758
at the end of uh the faith episode and

1619
01:09:27,759 --> 01:09:29,559
and that whole episode was really about

1620
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:33,238
I think very topical for today about

1621
01:09:33,239 --> 01:09:37,079
what's what's real faith and uh Julie

1622
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:40,358
Ben comes in and has a scene with Jensen

1623
01:09:40,359 --> 01:09:43,519
and uh Jensen says to her um I'm I'm not

1624
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:45,919
much for praying but I I'll pray for you

1625
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:47,519
and she said well that's a miracle right

1626
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:50,959
there and um I I thought that kind of I

1627
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:52,079
thought it was really sweet I thought it

1628
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:54,639
was incredibly well acted uh with both

1629
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:58,599
Julie and and and I thought that um that

1630
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:00,839
probably if people were listening I

1631
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:02,519
think that probably was

1632
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:06,079
our you know our finest moment toh say

1633
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:08,999
something semi-political and and be um

1634
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:10,479
on the right side of that I just hope it

1635
01:10:10,480 --> 01:10:17,590
affected people the way it affected

1636
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:21,439
me um I I agree with all of those all of

1637
01:10:21,440 --> 01:10:23,359
those are incredible scenes I would also

1638
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:25,839
add uh the scene when

1639
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:29,119
uh Dean first calls his father in home

1640
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:31,279
and tells him that come to Lawrence and

1641
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:34,559
just the way that Jensen was able to try

1642
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:36,238
to put up those walls but the walls kept

1643
01:10:36,239 --> 01:10:38,919
breaking down and that was amazing but

1644
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:40,119
all those amazing scenes aside

1645
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:42,759
everyone's given such classy answers um

1646
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:44,198
I have to say that when the when the

1647
01:10:44,199 --> 01:10:46,839
dude stuck his hand at

1648
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:49,079
disposal in

1649
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:51,319
home and and then the monkey starts

1650
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:53,839
clapping and and we had that shot

1651
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:55,319
beneath the sink and you could actually

1652
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:57,119
see all the goo come out and I said I

1653
01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:58,559
and we shot it in da I said they'll

1654
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:00,799
never let us use that and we used it and

1655
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:02,879
uh it's it's more probably than any

1656
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:04,279
other scare sequence in the show it's

1657
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:06,319
the one that people watch and they just

1658
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:07,559
they can't even you know keep their eyes

1659
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:09,039
on the screen and you know to me that's

1660
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:10,198
sort of the fun of getting the effect

1661
01:11:10,199 --> 01:11:11,519
out of the audience so I'm going to say

1662
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:18,790
the garbage disposal scene in

1663
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:21,039
home it's great because that explains

1664
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:22,359
what Bob was talking about before with

1665
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:24,839
the two different approaches right okay

1666
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:26,279
I want to thank you guys you guys have

1667
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:29,119
been a great audience can I say

1668
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:31,839
uh before you go before you go don't go

1669
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:34,039
yet I also want to thank first of all

1670
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:35,759
Eric's got something to say well I just

1671
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:37,799
want to say uh we have a lot of the

1672
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:39,638
people who work in on Supernatural in

1673
01:11:39,639 --> 01:11:41,439
the audience and I want around of

1674
01:11:41,440 --> 01:11:44,319
Applause for them for this unbelievable

1675
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:48,479
season all of them' done such a they've

1676
01:11:48,480 --> 01:11:51,479
all they've all murdered themselves to

1677
01:11:51,480 --> 01:11:53,238
to bring you this show and and we

1678
01:11:53,239 --> 01:11:54,959
couldn't do it without any of them so so

1679
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:56,439
thank you thank you to

1680
01:11:56,440 --> 01:11:59,599
them I I also want to I want to thank

1681
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:01,718
you guys all of you for not just being

1682
01:12:01,719 --> 01:12:03,198
here tonight but also for the great work

1683
01:12:03,199 --> 01:12:04,999
that you're doing and uh you're

1684
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:06,718
obviously touching our for thank you

1685
01:12:06,719 --> 01:12:28,159
very much thank you for